XGL on Fedora?

[meslick]

So how could one -- persay one wanted to -- try out some simple XGL files on Fedora? I would like to get whatever experimental version of it is out there working on FC4t2 when it comes out on April 11th. I'm just planning ahead. Anyone tried Xgl out yet?

Teak

[ijzer666]

Yeah, xgl looks extremely promising. As fedora tries to be a cutting edge distro i'm hoping for it in fc6...

[sej7278]

i would there would be no chance of getting this in fc5, i think the release date of the final build is basically dependant on when gnome 2.14 gets released, the xgl stuff hasn't even been backported into the gnome tree yet.

i'd expect it in fc6, and before you ask, its very unlikely to be available as a yum update to fc5.

[Mat]

I seriously hope, that they won't ditch X.Org for that... having the need to own a suitable graphics adapter is not nice.. especially for older machines


Mat

[brunson]

Xgl is a modular X server for X.Org, so I doubt they will be getting rid of it.

[Mat]

it is planned to be a replacement for X.Org..
in it's umpthteens version obviously :)


Mat

[_tf_]

Hi

Here is how one can test the new eyecandy stuff with Fedora (Rawhide).
See https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00641.html

Note that it is not working with the binary nvidia driver at this time
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg00647.html
but nvidia is working on it http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-February/012764.html

Edit: one can keep track of aiglx development here
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx


cheers
lars

[_tf_]

...and here are precompiled rpms for Xgl.
http://spot.livejournal.com/253304.html
Have tried them and it works great on fedora rawhide/nvidia 6600gt :D

Thanks to Spot !!!


cheers

[Spoon!]

I would like to get whatever experimental version of it is out there working on FC4t2 when it comes out on April 11th.
You mean "FC5" and "March 15" (unless I've somehow travelled back in time)

[bitrain]

You mean "FC5" and "March 15" (unless I've somehow travelled back in time)
Post date: 2005-04-02 10:35 PM PST ;)

[sirkware]

I've installed the rpms but I dont see any changes in my system. Im using kde, so I installed gnome too thinking that it only works with gnome. So how do I enable those fading stuff and other xgl functionalities.

Now that's weird..my shift key doesnt work with punctionation marks. Even I cant type the question mark while typing here. Only the letters work.

...and here are precompiled rpms for Xgl.
http://spot.livejournal.com/253304.html
Have tried them and it works great on fedora rawhide/nvidia 6600gt :D

Thanks to Spot !!!


cheers

[sirkware]

Ooops...now my keyboard's working again after rebooting..

[ddufour]

Do you know about AIGLX?
The Xgl's rival created by the Fedora project.

[perry753]

I would like AIGLX on FC5 rather than XGL. There's no reason to replace X.Org.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/

[Finalzone]

AIGLX is a viable alternative than XGL. No wonder that videocard manufacturer like Nvidia prefer that approach due to the use of existing codes.

[_tf_]

I've installed the rpms but I dont see any changes in my system. Im using kde, so I installed gnome too thinking that it only works with gnome. So how do I enable those fading stuff and other xgl functionalities.

Now that's weird..my shift key doesnt work with punctionation marks. Even I cant type the question mark while typing here. Only the letters work.

here is how i did it in gnome.


HowTo install Xgl on Fedora Core 5 (Test3/RawHide)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


1- install nvidia's display driver and make it work right with your current Xorg server.

2- install Xgl and friends from http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/
yes you need update the mesa packages provided there.
(you can use yum if you like)

3- add

[servers]
0=Xgl

[server-Xgl]
name=Xgl server
command=/usr/bin/Xgl -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv -audit 0
chooser=false
handled=true
flexible=true
priority=0

to /etc/gdm/custom.conf

4- go to your gnome system preferences -> sessions and add:
compiz --replace gconf &;gnome-window-decorator &

5- restart gdm with something like /usr/sbin/gdm-restart
it should start the Xgl server and compiz will take over as the composite/window manager.
there will be no window decorations at the first try, this will get better with step

6- start gconf-editor and navigate to apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options and add the effect plugins
to "active_plugins".
add: decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher
(one at a time by clicking the add button)
after adding all of them it should read
active_plugins [gconf,decoration,wobbly,fade,minimize,cube,rotate, zoom,scale,move,resize,place,switcher]

7- now hit strg/alt/backspace to restart X and there should be a nice OpenGL rendered desktop
with all kind of effects (!)
(note, you can tweak the effects with gconf-editor (/apps/compiz/plugins))
for more tips on compiz see http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz

thats it.


if you have to reinstall the nvidia drivers later some time (i used the .run package) you need
to reinstall the xorg-x11-server-Xgl server and the mesa-* packages after this too.
(this will get better when nvidia have their new driver out so one can use them instead of the mesa OpenGL/nvidia mix)

for complete Xgl joy get jimmac's Xgl-wallpaper too! :-)
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/weblog.php/Artwork/XGL-wallpapers.php


-
and yes i know about AIGLX,
but it doesn't work with the nvidia driver at this time, so Xgl is nice alternative to play with ;-)



cheers

[sirkware]

Do you know about AIGLX?
The Xgl's rival created by the Fedora project.

Yup, I know AIGLX. Tried it before the day it was released. My friend tried it too but it messed up his fedora. He can't even login back to his computer. I guess it was still premature to try it out. Maybe a couple of months, it will get better.

[sirkware]

Thanks. I'll try it out later today. Hope I can make it work too.. :)

here is how i did it in gnome.


HowTo install Xgl on Fedora Core 5 (Test3/RawHide)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


1- install nvidia's display driver and make it work right with your current Xorg server.

2- install Xgl and friends from http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/
yes you need update the mesa packages provided there.
(you can use yum if you like)

3- add

[servers]
0=Xgl

[server-Xgl]
name=Xgl server
command=/usr/bin/Xgl -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv -audit 0
chooser=false
handled=true
flexible=true
priority=0

to /etc/gdm/custom.conf

4- go to your gnome system preferences -> sessions and add:
compiz --replace gconf &;gnome-window-decorator &

5- restart gdm with something like /usr/sbin/gdm-restart
it should start the Xgl server and compiz will take over as the composite/window manager.
there will be no window decorations at the first try, this will get better with step

6- start gconf-editor and navigate to apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options and add the effect plugins
to "active_plugins".
add: decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher
(one at a time by clicking the add button)
after adding all of them it should read
active_plugins [gconf,decoration,wobbly,fade,minimize,cube,rotate, zoom,scale,move,resize,place,switcher]

7- now hit strg/alt/backspace to restart X and there should be a nice OpenGL rendered desktop
with all kind of effects (!)
(note, you can tweak the effects with gconf-editor (/apps/compiz/plugins))
for more tips on compiz see http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz

thats it.


if you have to reinstall the nvidia drivers later some time (i used the .run package) you need
to reinstall the xorg-x11-server-Xgl server and the mesa-* packages after this too.
(this will get better when nvidia have their new driver out so one can use them instead of the mesa OpenGL/nvidia mix)

for complete Xgl joy get jimmac's Xgl-wallpaper too! :-)
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/weblog.php/Artwork/XGL-wallpapers.php


-
and yes i know about AIGLX,
but it doesn't work with the nvidia driver at this time, so Xgl is nice alternative to play with ;-)



cheers

[sirkware]

Why can't I see /apps/compiz on I open gconf-editor? I have tried installing, reinstalling compiz several times and still compiz does not show up on gconf-editor. I tried searching it in gconf-editor and no pattern was found. Anything I might have missed? I have installed all the necessary packages..

[_tf_]

Why can't I see /apps/compiz on I open gconf-editor? I have tried installing, reinstalling compiz several times and still compiz does not show up on gconf-editor. I tried searching it in gconf-editor and no pattern was found. Anything I might have missed? I have installed all the necessary packages..


compiz --replace gconf
should create the gconf keys.

maybe restarting gconf with
sudo killall gconfd-2
loads them.


good luck!

[designbydave]

here is how i did it in gnome.


HowTo install Xgl on Fedora Core 5 (Test3/RawHide)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
...

2- install Xgl and friends from http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/
yes you need update the mesa packages provided there.
(you can use yum if you like)

...


I get stuck here. Too many dependancies, and YUM fails to resolve them all. Can you post your yum configuration, or elaborate more on how you got these rpms to install? thanks

[nucleus]

i was wondering...
if Xgl is actually an X replacement, wont it work with KDE as well as Gnom or any other window manager for that matter?

[_tf_]

i was wondering...
if Xgl is actually an X replacement, wont it work with KDE as well as Gnom or any other window manager for that matter?

Xgl does not replace the X server. It runs on top of the Xorg server.


cheers

[_tf_]

I get stuck here. Too many dependancies, and YUM fails to resolve them all. Can you post your yum configuration, or elaborate more on how you got these rpms to install? thanks

all deps should be ok if you use the current fedora development (rawhide) repo,
or the final fedora core 5 one (fc5 is released today).


good luck!

[jim]

to instal lthe AIGLX package see here
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/AiglxOnFedora?action=show

and to make it simple as to turn it off and on I wrote this script last night

Copy and paste into gedit and save it as AIGLX.sh
after saving the file , r-click and choose properties go to permissions and check the execute box for owner
then double click the script and choose run

#!/bin/bash
title="Aiglx Service"
#Date: 3-19-2006
# Wriiten By: fedorajim@gmail.com
zenity --question --text "Do you want to turn On or Off the AIGLX Service? Yes=On / Cancel=Off" --title="$title"
if [ "$(echo $?)" == "1" ] #They clicked "no"
then # Turn off the AIGLX Service

gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool false
else
# turn on the AIGLX Service

gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
fi

[celerius]

I managed to get it working I think, under the final FC5.compiz --replace gconf &;gnome-window-decorator &This is under System > Preferences > More Preferences > Sessions
Under the "Startup Programs" tab that you add. For some reason it didn't work for me so I've to run those two commands manually after logging in.active_plugins [gconf,decoration,wobbly,fade,minimize,cube,rotate, zoom,scale,move,resize,place,switcher]Note that anyone who wishes to try should follow the above order as it matters.
all deps should be ok if you use the current fedora development (rawhide) repo, or the final fedora core 5 one (fc5 is released today). good luck!The mesa that comes with final FC5 doesn't seem to work. It's missing GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. I had to extract libGL.so from the ones from http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/ and when running compiz I had to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs/ compiz --replace gconf to point to the working libraries. Make sure the permissions of the libs are correct that your user can access them.

I'm using a i945g motherboard with gma950 onboard graphic processor and other than the "special effects", everything else seems to be really slow and sluggish. Like when scrolling a webpage, I can see it update line after line. The other thing is that it crashes really easily, opening one terminal to run the compiz command, then opening another tab in term would send me back to the login screen. Hope these issues get fixed soon.

[designbydave]

I managed to get it working I think, under the final FC5.This is under System > Preferences > More Preferences > Sessions
Under the "Startup Programs" tab that you add. For some reason it didn't work for me so I've to run those two commands manually after logging in.Note that anyone who wishes to try should follow the above order as it matters.
The mesa that comes with final FC5 doesn't seem to work. It's missing GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. I had to extract libGL.so from the ones from http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/ and when running compiz I had to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs/ compiz --replace gconf to point to the working libraries. Make sure the permissions of the libs are correct that your user can access them.


...and thats where I get stuck

when I try to run compiz --replace it tells me that its missing GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap

not really sure how you were able to extract it from those rpms.

I upgraded to FC5 this morning.

[jim]

for FC5 see my post above and the link to obtain the correct files

[designbydave]

for FC5 see my post above and the link to obtain the correct files

that looks like its for AIGLX, I'm tring to get XGL running.

or do they use the same packages?

[celerius]

that looks like its for AIGLX, I'm tring to get XGL running. or do they use the same packages?I used rpm2cpio rpmname.rpm | cpio -id ./filename.soto extract the specific files that I needed. Prior to that I had to use rpm2cpio rpmname.rpm | cpio -tto view the contents of the rpms. Have fun!

[Sarthan]

I'm only able to run compiz and gnome-window-manager after I log into the gnome-desktop as a normal user and then execute the commands as root. When I execute these commands as the user that I use to log into the gnome-desktop I don't get the window manager to run.

#LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib" compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher &
#sleep 2
#gnome-window-decorator &

[mvrk]

...and here are precompiled rpms for Xgl.
http://spot.livejournal.com/253304.html
Have tried them and it works great on fedora rawhide/nvidia 6600gt :D

Thanks to Spot !!!


cheers

Hi, installed this rpms on my FC5 but i'm not able to run Xgl, i get this error:

X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.9-22.18.bz155725.ELsmp i686Red Hat, Inc.
Current Operating System: Linux songoku.telbit.pt 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5smp #1 SMP Tue Mar 14 16:05:46 EST 2006 i686
Build Date: 15 March 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.93.log", Time: Tue Mar 28 14:57:05 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) I810(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI.
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
> Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols
> Ignoring extra symbols
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
X Error of failed request: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error)
Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 1 (X_GLXRender)
Serial number of failed request: 212
Current serial number in output stream: 213

My video card is an Intel 915G, does any one got this error?

[jonathanpeter]

I managed to get it working I think, under the final FC5.This is under System > Preferences > More Preferences > Sessions
Under the "Startup Programs" tab that you add. For some reason it didn't work for me so I've to run those two commands manually after logging in.Note that anyone who wishes to try should follow the above order as it matters.
The mesa that comes with final FC5 doesn't seem to work. It's missing GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. I had to extract libGL.so from the ones from http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/ and when running compiz I had to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs/ compiz --replace gconf to point to the working libraries. Make sure the permissions of the libs are correct that your user can access them.

I'm using a i945g motherboard with gma950 onboard graphic processor and other than the "special effects", everything else seems to be really slow and sluggish. Like when scrolling a webpage, I can see it update line after line. The other thing is that it crashes really easily, opening one terminal to run the compiz command, then opening another tab in term would send me back to the login screen. Hope these issues get fixed soon.

Followed above instructions and still getting the same error message:
compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
compiz: Failed to manage screen: 0
compiz: No managable screens found on display :0.0

I have folder: /home/jonathan/myLibs
which contains:
libGL.so.1 libGLU.so libGLU.so.1.3.060402 libGLw.so.1
libGL.so.1.2 libGLU.so.1 libGLw.so libGLw.so.1.0.0

which were extracted from the rpms in the above quote.

When I run: compiz LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/jonathan/myLibs/ --replace gconf

I'm still getting the above error.

Does anyone have any ideas?

[nicstevens42]

all deps should be ok if you use the current fedora development (rawhide) repo,
or the final fedora core 5 one (fc5 is released today).


good luck!
I find no xgl in the fedora repos.
[root@niclap ~]# yum list '*[Xx][Gg][Ll]*'
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Setting up repositories
livna [1/5]
updates [2/5]
core [3/5]
aiglx [4/5]
extras [5/5]
Reading repository metadata in from local files
[root@niclap ~]#

[Sarthan]

I'm running FC5 and I got the rpm's from this location : http://www.auroralinux.org/people/spot/Xgl-FC5T3/

[pif90]

Followed above instructions and still getting the same error message:
compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
compiz: Failed to manage screen: 0
compiz: No managable screens found on display :0.0

I have folder: /home/jonathan/myLibs
which contains:
libGL.so.1 libGLU.so libGLU.so.1.3.060402 libGLw.so.1
libGL.so.1.2 libGLU.so.1 libGLw.so libGLw.so.1.0.0

which were extracted from the rpms in the above quote.

When I run: compiz LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/jonathan/myLibs/ --replace gconf

I'm still getting the above error.

Does anyone have any ideas?

I also have been unable to get past the compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing part.

I was able to extract the appropriate files from the .rpms, but nothing happened when I did

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs/ compiz --replace gconf

Celerius, if you could be more specific about it, it would be appreciated. Thanks!

[jonathanpeter]

I also have been unable to get past the compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing part.

I was able to extract the appropriate files from the .rpms, but nothing happened when I did

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs/ compiz --replace gconf

Celerius, if you could be more specific about it, it would be appreciated. Thanks!

I managed to solve the problem by creating a shell script which does:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs
compiz --replace gconf
gnome-window-decorator

[SLB]

Hi to all :)

Well, some time ago I installed xgl on my fc5 using the rpms provided by spot, I used the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable and everything went fine.
Yesterday I decided to try the newest compiz version, so I removed the rpm'd one, got the cvs version and compiled it by source. Since I notice it won't work, I uninstalled it, and reinstalled the old rpm. Nothing else. I checked manually the files installed by the cvs version and the rpm version and they seems to be the same as before.
Now, when I run compiz including the replacement for gconf, I get stuck, compiz and gconfd-2 processed are crazy running and are heading the top monitoring program.
So I have to kill them manually and rerun compiz without the replacement of gconf. But of course I can't modify any setting nor using my personal old preferences viewables by gconf-editor.
What's wrong? I removed the cvs version of compiz and reinstalled the rpm'd one, nothing else :confused:
Please help me if you can, because I can't understand where is the problem and I don't know where try to find errors nor a solution to them :(

Thanks a lot :p

EDIT:

I solved simply deleting all compiz keys from
/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml

HTH

[pif90]

I managed to solve the problem by creating a shell script which does:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/myname/mymesalibs
compiz --replace gconf
gnome-window-decorator


I did the same thing, except for the line

compiz --replace gconf

I added the decoration, cube, etc... to that... works beautifully

[SLB]

I did the same thing, except for the line

compiz --replace gconf

I added the decoration, cube, etc... to that... works beautifully

But.. can you customize xgl's behavior?

[Jongi]

I am having problems:

The following is run as root:


# locate libGL (an extract)
/usr/lib/libGL.so
/usr/lib/libGL.so.1
/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
/usr/lib/libGLU.so
/usr/lib/libGLU.so.1
/usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.060402
/usr/lib/libGLw.so
/usr/lib/libGLw.so.1
/usr/lib/libGLw.so.1.0.0



# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher &
[3] 15988
[2] Exit 1 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher
[root:~#] compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
compiz: Failed to manage screen: 0
compiz: No managable screens found on display :0.0


It would probably be helpful as well how those who have extracted the relevant files could instructions as to how they did so.

[Jongi]

1. Created a directory in home called libfiles
2. I downloaded the 3 mesa-lib files into the libfiles directory.
3. cd /home/user/libfiles
4. rpm2cpio mesa-libGLw-*.rpm | cpio -id ./usr/lib/libGL*
5. mv usr/lib/libGL* .
6. rpm2cpio mesa-libGLU-*.rpm | cpio -id ./usr/lib/libGL*
7. mv usr/lib/libGL* .
8. rpm2cpio mesa-libGL-*.rpm | cpio -id ./usr/lib/libGL*
9. mv usr/lib/libGL* .

EDIT: After every mv, I did a rm -rdfv usr

The I ran the following to initialise:


# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/user/libfiles compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher &

# sleep 2

# gnome-window-decorator &


How can I go about adding the above part in code into a file that runs everytime on startup instead of having to initialise every startup?

[Scytale]

Have a look in the how-to section of these forums, there a quite a few tutroials that describe how to get XGL working.

For what you want to do try adding compiz and gnome-window-decorator to the startup section of gnome sessions. It's under the prefrances menu of gnome somewhere (sorry I'm on a windows box at work).

Also GDMsetup might be able to help you (run 'gdmsetup' from terminal) have a look under the security X-server tab.

[Jongi]

compiz --replace gconf &;gnome-window-decorator &


This is under System > Preferences > More Preferences > Sessions
Under the "Startup Programs" tab that you add. I’ve also added it under the 1st tab. There is also a listing called default under the 1st tab that I can’t seem to get rid off. Still the compiz section doesn’t appear when I run gconf-editor.