Desktop Environment

[Ug]

Now I know this is a bit of a religious question, but I was wondering which desktop environment you lot use. Personally I'm a KDE man, it was the first desktop environment i ever used and I've tried Gnome but I just prefer the cohesiveness of KDE.

[mhelios]

Well, I chose Gnome, because I use it the most at the moment. I've used and liked KDE a lot in the past and I like the simplicity (and speed!) of ICEWM although I do, unlike many, prefer bells and whistles.:o Also, I never really caught on to the blackbox/fluxbox/*box craze..

BTW ug, just a nitpick on this poll:
You should either change the poll name to "Which Desktop Environment you prefer" or change the poll items to be -
--gdm (GNOME)
--kdm (KDE)
--other

Because wm's and de's are different. Just so no one gets confused or anything..:)

[Ug]

I stand corrected.

[Bana]

I like Gnome although I have yet to try KDE (at least seriously) although I kind of want to try one of those super lightweight ones (like XFCE4) to see myself zoom with speed.

[mhelios]

Originally posted by Bana
I like Gnome although I have yet to try KDE (at least seriously) although I kind of want to try one of those super lightweight ones (like XFCE4) to see myself zoom with speed.

FC2 (and the test releases) comes with XFCE4. Can't wait to try it out. The screenshots at xfce.org really appeal to me. :)

[Ug]

So why do people generally use Gnome over KDE then?

[ladyg]

I <3 KDE

[ewdi]

i use KDE at home gnome at work :p

[Ug]

:D

[ewdi]

i didnt start using Gnome until 2.4.1 though :p they improved a lot in term of speed from 2.2 :p

[Ug]

And why did you convert?

[ewdi]

Didnt really convert actually, at home still using kde with libranet, only at work i use fedora with gnome since all the system here pre-installed with gnome

[Ug]

What do you do for a job? Do you work at a uni or something? I noticed the .edu in your email address?

[ewdi]

yeah, i work in univ in texas

[Ug]

I should be off to Nottingham University in September to do Politics.

You've probably heard of it.

[ewdi]

yes, i want to go to nottingham (rejected) :p

[Ug]

lol, I was visiting the university yesterday that's why I wasn't on the forums all day.

It's very very nice.

[mhelios]

Well I used to be a big fan of KDE in previous RH releases. The KIO slaves are a real hit. Since FC1, I've been using GNOME more for it's smoother integration and support into the desktop.
However, with some of the new "issues" with GNOME's new design (read: spatial) and the rave reviews of KDE 3.2, I may have to switch back..

[serpico]

I used to use KDE in other distros and this time I gave Gnome a chance since it was the default in Fedora. I really like Gnome, and haven't even tried KDE on it yet. Maybe I'll try for a week and see how it works. Maybe I'll go back to KDE. :)

[Ug]

Originally posted by mhelios
Well I used to be a big fan of KDE in previous RH releases. The KIO slaves are a real hit. Since FC1, I've been using GNOME more for it's smoother integration and support into the desktop.
However, with some of the new "issues" with GNOME's new design (read: spatial) and the rave reviews of KDE 3.2, I may have to switch back..

Spatial?

[mhelios]

Nautilus' new layout design in 2.6 is called "spatial". See these for reference:
http://www.gnomedesktop.org/article.php?sid=1348
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-September/msg00446.html

[madape]

Well I've tried Gnome, IceWin, Fluxbox, but I've always gone back to KDE :)

It's funky.

[mousematt]

I've used both a lot. I like GNOME and KDE but I find I spend too much time fiddling with KDE instead of working. It's not that its broken: it's just that I can... :-)

GNOME is fast, pretty and functional. I actually get work done using GNOME.

Hey there btw. I just discovered the board... any other aussies here?

[ewdi]

i think it also depends on how a distro implement the window manager, in libranet, gnome is kind a flackie and u can say super unstable, however in redhat ent, gnome is a lot more stable imo

[mhelios]

Originally posted by mousematt
Hey there btw. I just discovered the board... any other aussies here?

Hi mousematt.:) I'm an aussie! Check out the Location thread in General Discussion.

[ewdi]

now we got 2 matt, what is the coincidence both from oz :p

[mhelios]

the more Matt's the merrier. :p

[Ug]

*mumbles something about Australia and convicts*

:p

[cs007]

I have to admit that KDE is really nice, but it reminds me way too much of MS. Konqueror is more integrated than IE and I hate the KDE control center, it's not very intuitive in my book.

Gnome, at version 2.4.1, is finally good enough to use as a default de/wm. I love individual/seperate apps.

XFce4 is very awesome. It's very simplistic, but with a little savvy editing and additional programs (menumaker and rox), you can turn it into an awesome environment that handles both Gnome and kde app with applum.

[mars_hall]

I've been using the KDE 3.2 for the past week or so. Seems pretty nice thus far.

[mike]

I use Gnome on my desktop, and WindowMaker on my laptop.

[Ug]

Originally posted by mars_hall
I've been using the KDE 3.2 for the past week or so. Seems pretty nice thus far.
A new convert perhaps?

[jdl]

I've tried various incarnations of Gnome over the last 3 years but always came away with the feeling that it's designed for the less technical user. I could never get anywhere near any serious administrative apps with it and as a result have been using KDE on my main server here at home.

I installed KDE 3.2 today on my laptop and so far I am very impressed; it's certainly a lot faster than 3.1

[Ug]

Thats the aspect most people are raving about, is the speed of KDE 3.2

[mhelios]

Originally posted by jdl
I've tried various incarnations of Gnome over the last 3 years but always came away with the feeling that it's designed for the less technical user. I could never get anywhere near any serious administrative apps with it and as a result have been using KDE on my main server here at home.

I installed KDE 3.2 today on my laptop and so far I am very impressed; it's certainly a lot faster than 3.1
I agree about GNOME's simpler nature, but that suits me fine. I can have an intuitive and uncluttered desktop that serves well for my GUI needs, and whenever I require a bit more power and functionality I just drop to the command line!

I feel, that to have a good trade of between functionality and complexity (or feature-rich) on the desktop, it's better to go with less i.e. incorporate only the features people really need out of a GUI and leave the less used to the command line. I think GNOME does a good job at this. Although it's not perfect; nobody can claim that! Of course, the beauty of open source is knowing if you wanted to add something you feel is missing, it's a simple matter of checking out the source and freely changing it to your needs. :)

[sebb]

Hey where are those Gnome lovers!

I am one of them!

I haven't tried KDE 3.2, but 3.1 is ugly. Konqueror gives me a headache every time I use it. For example, when I open a link in a tab, it take a while to open, and I have to right click to close the tab. The text rendering is ugly and when a want larger text, I have to do View > Increase text size millions of time to have my text a little bit larger.

An other thing is the problems with QT. It's Open Source for UNIX but not for Windows so it cause some problems.

An other thing is the ugly default theme with 3.1 (galaxy I think). The icons are quite ugly too (scuse me elveraldo) compared to the stock icons. They have too many colors (they are too shiny).


And that's just the begining ...

(Scuse me if it's a little bit of flamming, but I just said what I think)

[serpico]

I really like Gnome, I tried logging into KDE but I was missing Gnome after using it for weeks now. Maybe next week I'll give KDE a try. :)

[mars_hall]

Originally posted by ug_the_caveman
A new convert perhaps?

I'm still trying to locate some of the programs that I use in Gnome, but I am impressed with all the eye candy. (me likes the pretty shiny things). I was able to get it configured to play my music, so everything is cool for me at the moment. I just have to go back to Gnome once in a while, when I can't find what I need.

[bsm2004]

Gnome

KDE looks to much like windows to me

[Ug]

I disagree. You can make KDE look pretty much however you want to.

[MiNoS]

I like both, Gnome and KDE but somehow I prefer Gnome over KDE and I think I will stick to it. Haven't tried KDE 3.2 yet, only played with a version on Gentoo bootable CD I got at Fosdem but I think I stick to Fedora and Gnome...

[Ug]

KDE 3.2 is a big improvement.

[crackers]

I've been using KDE since, uh, 1.1.2 (?) and, to be honest, I much prefer it to Gnome. For one, it actually takes up less memory. KDE, especially with 3.2, is much more responsive. I prefer the look and feel - Gnome feels too "cartoony" (for lack of a better term). I also like the level of customization I can get with KDE over the limited settings of Gnome.

My wife, who went full-time Linux last year, also prefers KDE - and she's not a "geek." She found Gnome too restrictive and (believe it or not) said "I wanted to get rid of Windows because I was tired of having my hand held the whole time. Gnome was like that to me!"

Konqueror the WebBrowser still kinda irks me, but that's what Mozilla's for. I will admit that the integration of Internet protocols with the file-manager in Konqueror makes for some pretty strange/cool manipulations - like drag-n-drop SSH copying (I have no idea if Nautilus can do the same or not).

[Ug]

For some reason Konqueror always displays fonts at ridiculously large sizes...

I prefer Firefox personally to surf the web with.

[serpico]

I love Firefox too, it works great in Fedora as well as OS X. I've dropped Safari, thought I never would, it's good too.

I notice that Firefox works great with sites that require Windows IE. My office uses Windows 2003 server with the new Outlook Web Access to view work email from a browser. But Safari and Mac IE 5.2 can't even access it. With FireFox I can access it through Fedora and OS X.

My only problem is trying to install all the plug-in's I need. It's not going smoothly, but right now I need to deal with other issues in Fedora like mounting my cdrw and streaming mp3's! Focus on one thing at a time!

[Ug]

Yea, installing plugins in Firefox isn't as hassle free as it could be.

[ckr]

I tried out both when I installed Fedora, but now I seem to have settled on KDE. That way I can waste hours tweaking it to my heart's content.

[djf_jeff]

Gnome really kick ass!

Seriously, with the upcoming 2.6, it will be really nice. With all the new thing like the inclusion of rhytmbox, new background thingy, etc, it will be a good new version.

I wait for FC2!

[SuperNu]

I use KDE 3.2 on my desktop and XFce 4 on my laptop. I tried Gnome, and never really liked it too much. I have also tried out Fluxbox and Enlightenment, but I keep on going back to KDE.

--SN

[sundanceloki]

Well years ago on my first try with linux I tried KDE. While it may have been the PC I was using at the time, KDE just deemed slower and clunkier at the time. It also seemed to thrash the disk a bit more than GNOME. So I switched. I've tried KDE 3.2, and I admit it seems to have matured a lot, but, frankly I've been burned into the "GNOME" way of doing things.

I also seem to like ratpoison as a light WM. it seems, once you get around all the keybindings you can run anything with the click of a few keys...

my 2 cents

Cheers

[Ug]

It is funny, I appear to have gone full circle and I'm now using Gnome full time. I wonder how long it will be until i'm back in KDE again...

[kilrex]

I seem to be the only one :rolleyes: but I'm using Fluxbox. And there are some good reasons - in my eyes - for that, especially the following things:

- It's very, very fast
- It's simple
- It's the only windows manager / desktop environment I know so far that fully integrates tabbing - that means, you can simply stick together several windows running different applications
- It sort of brings me nearer to the system (maybe that's foolish ;) )

I like both KDE and Gnome as well but Fluxbox meets my needs best so far.

[James]

I prefer KDE over Gnome although this is just a personal choice, i am more used to working in kde, but when i log in as root i use gnome so i can get more used to it.

Installing KDE 3.2 really made me like KDE even more.

[Ug]

I've fallen for Gnome well and truley. It works better on low end machines too, than KDE.

[James]

Originally posted by Ug
I've fallen for Gnome well and truley. It works better on low end machines too, than KDE.

I agree Ug , kde is a bit of a resource hog, after installing kde 3.2 my glxgears test went down by 150 - 200 fps, but i can live with that.

I am looking forward to trying gnome 2.6 with fedora core 2.

[serpico]

Hmm, that's odd, b/c Gnome appeared to me slower than KDE on my PC. I'm using my wife's old PC, AMD K6-2/400 with 400mb of ram and 20GB hdd. I used Gnome 2.4 (the default that comes with Fedora 1) and this past week I switched to KDE to give it a shot.

I feel that Gnome lacks alot of useability that I'm used to in XP and OS X. KDE really is nice and is very comfortable to use than Gnome I think for myself. Bottom line, is that I'm very happy using Fedora and I get my tasks done on a fairly old PC.

I'm thinking about upgrading my systems, I have a 2 year old iBook running OS X and a couple of older PC's (400 MHz) running Fedora and XP on the other quite well. But instead of another mac, I'm thinking more of a PC laptop and saving some money. I would love to use Fedora on a notebook and just dual boot back into XP to use AutoCAD at work.

Another thing to think about...;)

[Tidus-chan]

I use both, but I think KDE looks better.

[sailor]

I use KDE (recently updated to 3.2)...I really don't know why I use it...it seemed to be the prefered manager when I started looking at linux...and I got used to it
I also don't like the foot logo for Gnome...hehe

[foolish]

KDE offers choices and configurability, along with speed and the ability to do almost anything you want. Gnome offers a simple, clean interface to get your tasks done easier and faster. I think gnome looks better and besides, it just makes more sense than kde.

Gnome 2.6 is simply amazing, the spatial nautilus really is simple to use once you get used to it, things tend to "just work" for me, which is the goal of GNOME. Gnome 2.6 is much, much better at browsing various network shares with nautilus, using sftp to browse my server is as fast as browsing local files. Can't wait for core 2.

[Ug]

Not long now for it.

I tried out xfce yesterday, its blindingly quick but is so clumsy in terms of user interface that I went back to Gnome pretty quickly.

[Nikola]

XFce4, compiled from CVS. Works and looks great, with ROX Pinboard for desktop icons, ROX Filer or Nautilus (--no-desktop) as file managers. It's like GNOME on a diet :-)

[sailor]

I loaded Fluxbox today...it works ok...it seems that some programs won't launch though...I am gong to play with it see how it works...I have used blackbox in windows before...same thing as flux

[kosmosik]

I use WindowMaker, current CVS version... It rox. ;)
http://kosmosik.one.pl/shots/2004-04-22-212856_1024x768_scrot.png

[wasylnch]

I use GNOME thats actually one of the reasons why i enjoy fedora so much. That and it is the ONLY distribution that detects my hardware straight from installing. Also I find that Gnome runs smooth compared to kde, and kde seems extremely buggy all the time.

[ghaefb]

Fluxbox 0.9.8

[leasure98]

I've been using linux for only about 6 months......All the distros I tried (probably 10 or so), used KDE for default. When I installed FC1, I decided to give the default Gnome a shot. Know what? I like the "cleaner" looking desktop. Looks better to me, IMHO.

[Drenon]

KDE :) - Good to see KDE getting a fair reception here - sadly, in some places it's something of a crime to say you prefer it over GNOME - 3.2's fast and accomplished and from any perspective a considerable acievement - look forward to seeing both GNOME and KDE improve over the next 12-18 months - it's all good :D

[mark]

Gnome. I've tried both Gnome and KDE in recent Red Hat iterations, as well as FC1 (my current install) and I just keep gravitating back to Gnome. Perhaps it's the simplicity (as I've seen referrenced in other posts here) or the "look 'n feel" - it simply seems to fit better for me.

Haven't tried KDE 3.2 yet, I'm sure I'll give it a go with FC2 (assuming my Synaptics touchpad works!). Also, I've recently installed & been fiddling with Xfce4...the jury's still out on this one.

And no, I don't care for the footprint, either. :-)

[harlekin]

gnome!
(as on test3 of course 2.6)
gnome!
fast, clean, beautiful
gnome!
more than just a religion :D

[jrblevin]

Originally posted by kosmosik
$ ya mamma dresses ya funny
and ya need mouse to delete files :P


LOL! Having your mamma dress you is bad enough, but deleting files with a MOUSE?!?

Luckily I use Gnome where I can delete files from the command prompt like any self-respecting person ought to! :) As harlekin said, it is clean and fast. There are definitely things about KDE that I like but I get the feeling that it is cluttered, I will never use all those toolbar buttons in Konqueror. However, it does seem to stay a little ahead of Gnome in features, for example KDE has better power management features and detection for the Fn keys on my laptop. So far I'm not aware of anything like this in Gnome. But Gnome feels more consistent, to the point, and most of the applications I use are GTK anyhow.

[Thoreau]

I use both!!! On my Fedora i use Gnome, but on my Gentoo i use KDE 3.2 :-/

[STiAT]

xfce

[samwyse]

I used to switch between kde and gnome, when Gnome was at 1.4 version. When Gnome 2 came, I haven't used it more than for a quick test, because it got too restrictive (window manager issues and hiding or completely loosing some options)

Also Gnome 2.6 is slower compared to KDE 3.2.

[Ug]

I can't believe this thread is still going! I only started it back in February!

[Avon]

Well, in the spirit of threads that wouldn't die...

Enlightenment (WM only, no desktop environment). I like it because it's ultra configurable and clean. I get irritated very easily by clutter on the screen, and for me that includes desktop icons and a task/launcher bar. Minimalism, it's the way to go :)

[OpenSouls.com]

Just installed core 2 yesterday, using the default Gnome and boucning into XFCE now and then. I've used KDE with other installations before (including FC1). Haven't used it enough to really develop a preferance between Gnome and KDE. I'm using a bit of XFCE trying to see if I like it - figured I'm using Linux to explore different computing options rather than just something that acts like Windows.

Just my 2¢

[crackers]

Note: remarks herein are to be construed as humorous and not as trying to negate or invalidate anyone's particular choice. And it is about personal choice...

Originally posted by Avon
Enlightenment (WM only, no desktop environment). I like it because it's ultra configurable and clean. I get irritated very easily by clutter on the screen, and for me that includes desktop icons and a task/launcher bar. Minimalism, it's the way to go :)
From Enlightenment? "Minimalism?" E's got more bells and whistles built into it than a train museum!

I did use E a couple of years ago, but had to stop - I spent more time tweaking this and that than I did any actual work or play...

:D

[sailor]

KDE rules...and with FC2/kde 3.2 combination it keeps gettin' better...there is lots of stuff to play with so I will never get bored with my desktop....
:))

[OpenSouls.com]

Originally posted by sailorsgh
KDE rules...and with FC2/kde 3.2 combination it keeps gettin' better...there is lots of stuff to play with so I will never get bored with my desktop....
:))

Since GNOME was default when I installed FC2, I started to play with it. Now I'm having problems with XMMS and sound, so I'm moving back to KDE (which I used in FC1), and play with XFCE (though sound trouble here too) now and then.

KDE, it just looks so yummy sometimes!

[sailor]

Ya know I have been having problems with xmms all the time...no matter what desktop I use... I have been using Zinf and Xine for music and such...
FLuxbox can look really nice too...
sailor

[STiAT]

i've been using KDE for a long time, starting at SuSE 5.2 i think.

Well, i used KDE till KDE 3.2 was released. The release of KDE 3.2 was just a pain in the ass for me, i didnt like the things which should have done things easier, they're more a pain than easing my daily work.

Since that i use GNOME. So I've changed from KDE to GNOME with FC2. I'm now quite happy with GNOME. The problems:

KDE performs lots of better, is simply faster than gnome. QT in general is faster than GTK ever was...

Well, i'm quite happy now with GNOME, but nautilus (or the new file browser) are missing lot of features ...

Anyways, better than KDE 3.2 - in my eyes

// STi

[rurp]

I use Gnome and Fluxbox.

[Ravish]

I use KDE :D my favourite :d

[OpenSouls.com]

Originally posted by sailorsgh
Ya know I have been having problems with xmms all the time...no matter what desktop I use... I have been using Zinf and Xine for music and such...
FLuxbox can look really nice too...
sailor

Thanks for the suggestion - installed Zinf with the esd plugin and it works pretty good in GNOME for me. Now I'm between GNOME and XFCE (which I"m learning to use slowly)

[Ug]

I've moved from XMMS to Rhythym box recently. Rhythym box is turning into a really nice, simple to use application.

It also integrates nicely into Gnome (as it should do since its a Gnome app).

[dnar]

Bah, you don't have shell as a choice.... :p

[Ug]

*finds it hard to believe that someone uses shell entirely on a desktop machine*

[dnar]

hehe, not "entirely" but I would be lost without it! Gnome was my vote!

KDE I re-try every 6 months or so just to stay informed, but IMHO it is too cartoonish and I just feel at home with Gnome, I guess because it was the first desktop manager I ever used with Linux, I think it was Gnome 1.2?

I frequently try xfce, icewm etc but preffer Gnome. I did run E16 for a long time, it really is sexy but I had difficulties related to dual-head use.

Gotta say, Gnome 2.6 eats anything 2.x and certainly looks way nicer than Gnome 1.x, I just wished it was faster! (again).

In my job, we have several SCO Unixware 2.1.3 systems, using way-old Motif, man that sux more than Windows 2!!!! (and is about that era). Even the shell is old, and the standard *nix utilities have way less options, like -m (Human readable) for free and dfspace commands. I am so used to cutting edge Linux, I still keep trying to ping as a normal user in Unixware, but unlike Linux ping requires root priviledges in Unixware! I wont begin to describe what a POS networking and hardware support is like in 10 year old Unixes....

[BarryS]

Originally posted by Ug
So why do people generally use Gnome over KDE then?

Because it's the default in Fedora. The thing I like about using Fedora (fc1) is that KDE works pretty well with a little tweaking. Try to use Gnome under Mandrake or SuSE (KDE is the default desktop environment in both distros) and your in for some pain.

[rogerdugans]

I've messed with quite a few, but kde seems to be the best of the easy options for me.

gnome is good, but kde is better.

Of all the alternatives to those two I have tried, xfce4 is my favored choice...in many ways I like it best of all....once I am done configuring it the way I want.

For me, the compromise of kde's ease of getting it how I want and usabilty make it my main choice; maybe if I didn't rip machines apart and rebuild them all the time I would use xfce4 more. ;)

[crackers]

Wish I could put the wife's vote in, but she's not interested in signing up here. She chose KDE over Gnome because of the look-and-feel and the configurability (and turned off Bluecurve, too). It was the most comfortable for her, coming from a Mac/Windows background and her main comment:

"The OK/Cancel buttons are in the right places, not bass-ackwards!"

You gotta admit that's pretty funny... Okay, I thought it was funny... ;)

[zulaica]

i had been a long-time kde2 user, messed with all kde3.x versions so far... but since i installed fc2 when it went final, i decided to give gnome another chance.

they finally got it right.

it's light, easy to configure, clean, it gets the job done... i love it! i'm even working on a metacity theme as i write this! hell, i'm even one of the 7 people that LOVE the spatial nautilus! ;)

but like most people point out, it really is a personal preference. i happen to prefer gnome. to each their own. :)

[msimplay]

when i started with linux
i was on redhat 9 and obviosly started with gnome coz i was new

anyway i tried kde i found it harder so i left it for a bit

but then i went to mandrake because redhat seemed to be quite difficult for new users where mandrake had all packages preinstalled

anyways i was having a fair few problems with gnome on mandrake so i moved to

lindows just to test it , i found that it looked good but i found it harder coz i had never used KDE but since then i have never looked back

i went back to mandrake because lindows lacked development tools

and i used KDE since then
i like alot of the KDE applications like K3B
Kbear
and to me the interface feels slicker

but at the moment i'm having problems with my new computer and linux i'm forced to use windows until i can get
any distribution of linux working on it

[pigpen]

I use KDE exclusively although I must admit that Gnome has improved *a lot*.
I even prefer kdm over the standard gdm. But this is merely a question of preference...

[Ug]

hell, i'm even one of the 7 people that LOVE the spatial nautilus! ;)I'm also a fan, but i think you'll\ find its far more than 7 people! :p Over at Mad Penguin (http://www.madpenguin.org/) we've finally managed tgo convert Adam, the site owner who is a stalwart KDE fan, to Gnome 2.6. And he remarked to me this morning how nice spatial nautilius is - a real result!

[cyborg]

I use Gnome every time. Especially as KDE always messes up my soundcard

[jzke]

I got linux for the first time last year, SuSE, and always preferred gnome, although did once try KDE. I ended up getting rid of linux though because I never found out how to compile source code.

Then I saw a review of FC2 over at MadPenguin.org and simply could not resist. While I was waiting for it, I checked out all thestuff on KDE.org and Gnome.org, and decided that KDE looked much better. After using KDE for about 15 minutes, after my first installation, I could not bear it any longer. I had to go back to gnome, it turns out I love spatial nautilus too :) :D :) :D I like gnome because of its simplicity, and its excellent integration into FC2.

P.S. Hey I'm from Australia too :eek: :cool: :)

[imdeemvp]

Gnome Here.....faster than KDE i think :D ...i just wish redhat developer would include setnumlock automatically like in mandrake!...but Gnome Gone in 60 Secs....

[sailor]

Ok I give up...I was hard core KDE user...but Gnome has finally won me over...not as much configurability ...but over all a cleaner sometimes better thoughtout app...I have both installed but seem to spend 90% of my time in Gnome....I do not like Nautilus though,spatial or otherwise :rolleyes:

[cyborg]

Well I have'nt got much of an excuse for liking gnome, it was the first desktop I ever used and I just like it! Even though I think KDE has some good aplications on it but its to costimiseable (If you can read that word ;) )

[mark]

hell, i'm even one of the 7 people that LOVE the spatial nautilus! ;) I still don't understand all the angst about spatial mode - you point to an object, right-click and select Browse Folder if you prefer the "old-fashioned" way (which I do)...

[mytharak]

I must be able to ALT + right click to resize windows. Other than that, I have no problems with Gnome.

[ewdi]

my first home deskop linux was redhat 6.1 if i werent wrong, pretty fresh in my head where everything does not work :p my modem was winmodem :p

i recall that i was using KDE 1.1 and from there i'm using KDE up until now, i did use gnome on my debian too until now, but my redhat -> fedora is still running kde :)

[earobinson111]

wish gnome had more options

[cavedweller]

I've always used KDE. I have tried gnome a time or two. It seems that everytime I try it, it has lost a little more configurability and just opinion I think gnome looks cheesier than KDE that is just my opinion. I don't care for bluecurve but I don't care for SuSE' custome desktop either I prefer to do my own thing. I prefer glow, keramic, slick icons, transparent panel, no system tray office icons, or kilpper. Pager set to 2 desktops. Custom panel icons rdesktop, vnc client, terminal services client, network device controls, nessus, terminal sessions, mozilla and kmail. desk top kde boxed or kde only. desktop icons trash, start here, and home. Just how I like it.

[samwyse]

I must be able to ALT + right click to resize windows. Other than that, I have no problems with Gnome.

You can do it with ALT + middle click.

[Buchan]

I have used Linux since RH7 and Gnome has usually been the default. I got used to it, it works and thats it. Granted in RH7 it was pretty minimal but its gotten exponentially better since then. KDE has always had a "childish" feel to me, its always looked bubbly and bloated in comparison to Gnome.

[Psquared]

I use Gnome - although I have tried KDE. Between the two I felt like Gnome was faster to load. It may be my setup, but KDE takes 20-30 secs longer to load. I also dislike Konqueror.

My problem with Gnome was that I thought it could not be customized. Boy was I wrong. Once I figured out how to install themes, icons and backgrounds (wallpaper) I realized how wrong I was. I installed a couple of themes - especially the Gartoon icon theme and the Gnome "Winter" wallpaper with all those Penguins dressed up for winter - and my desktop looks very cool and very un-windows like. A bunch of backgrounds are included but not installed by default. You have to hunt for them, but I found them in /usr/share/Wallpapers. (duh!!) I also like spatial nautilus. It makes drag and drop very simple. Although, I will say that too much dragging and dropping across Nautilus windows will apparently cause Nautilus to crash.

I have tried Fluxbox, and although it looks cool I found it too hard.

Xfce is cool, but I must be missing something because it looks to me like you have to type the name of every program you want to run. I see no way to setup menu panels or icons on the desktop. That means I most likely won't use it again unless I can figure out an easier way to start programs. I am used to icons or desktop menus and I like it that way.

Window Maker is also very cool. I tried it for the first time the other day and I intend to play with it some more.

I downloaded and installed Enlightenment and I liked it very much, but I started having problems with switchdesk which I attributed to Enlightenment so I uninstalled it. I subsequently found out it was something else so I will probably reinstall it.

I have not tried IceWM.

I have not tried AfterStep either.

For me it will come down to Gnome or Enlightenment. However, now that I have Gnome customized the way I want it I most likely will stick with it.

[natrix]

I use gnome for a really lame reason - when I installed KDE, it looked too much like winblows, so I got rid of it. But I do use a few KDE apps in gnome, namely Kopete instant messenger.

I installed FC3 on a whim one night because I was having issues with XP, and now I want nothing to do with windows ever again! (though I still have much to learn about linux!)

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