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linmix
2006-02-28, 06:11 AM CST
I 've been updating my new FC4 install with yumex, a little at a time (56k connection ). Yesterday I rebooted and immediately noticed something strange was happening: kppp connects fine, but none of the browsers has internet access nor can I download any mail. Yum won't work either. aMule however does work, although I got a low ID, so I wen to my security settings and the ports I had previously configured for aMule were no longer enabled. After enableing them everyhting went fine as far as aMule is concerned.

This leads me to believe that the problem is with my firewall. I opened the security settngs again and checked the http and mail boxes, but got no difference. I tried to access security settings again and the GUI won't open anymore. I logged out and in, I even rebooted again, but the GUI won't come up anymore.

What can I do to get my browser and email program to access internet again?

ilja
2006-02-28, 06:32 AM CST
So the only vital function is working :D (SCNR)

Does ping work? It might be DNS server as well.
What does

cat /etc/resolv.conf

return?

linmix
2006-02-28, 06:36 AM CST
I'll write it on a scrap of paper, go home, try, write the result on another scrap and (probably tomorrow (get back to work and tell you.

Thanks for answereing though!!

ilja
2006-02-28, 06:45 AM CST
If so, then maybe you'll have to add the nameserver of your provider (ISP) to the file. Scrap it down somewhere ;)

linmix
2006-02-28, 08:17 AM CST
Actually I don't think my provider has supplied that information... I mean, the only thing I needed to set up the connection was the phone-number and my login and password.

So supposing it isn't the DNS what would I look for next?
How do I ping?

Another really annoying thing has happened as well: after the download/reboot I haven't been able to get a security settings GUI however hard I tried. The only thing I have been able to get was a semi-gui through the terminal after typing system-config-escuritysettings.

ilja
2006-02-28, 08:41 AM CST
ping google.com


look for the DNS-Server (nameserver) on the homepage of your provider. It is very often in the FAQ. I've never worked in kppp . but it might be, that there is an option to enter the nameserver there it as well.

Try to start

system-config-securitylevel

as user and not as root. That might help.

linmix
2006-02-28, 09:16 AM CST
Thanks! I'll get on it tonight.

foobar47
2006-02-28, 09:38 AM CST
And what is the result of this one :

http://64.233.167.99

linmix
2006-02-28, 11:10 PM CST
Ping doesn't work: unknown host

cat /etc/resolv.conf
search home
nameserver 127.0.0.1

http://64.233.167.99
the connection was refused trying to connect....

ilja
2006-03-01, 12:54 AM CST
that' the problem:
If you don't have a DNS server running on your PC or Domain, it won't find one. Put in a valid Nameserver of your ISP under nameserver. If you can't find one, try to take this one ns0.xname.org (http://www.xname.org/index.php) maybe it helps.

//edit:
I just saw that http://64.233.167.99 doesn't work. So it might be not the nameserver.

linmix
2006-03-01, 01:22 AM CST
Why would I need to configure the nameserver if I didn't have one configured before?
I've just set up a connection on another box (windows :() and I only need to provide the username and password for the connection. No DNS configuration whatsoever.

Not sure I about the result of http://64.233.167.99/ as I'm beginning to doubt whether I was online when I tried :rolleyes: , stupid but true! It'll have to wait till tonight... again.

foobar47
2006-03-01, 01:35 AM CST
//edit:
I just saw that http://64.233.167.99 doesn't work. So it might be not the nameserver.
This one works fine !
it is the google ip !! :D

linmix
2006-03-01, 01:42 AM CST
yeah I saw that on my other box, nice way to circumvent DNS!

bitrain
2006-03-01, 01:49 AM CST
Why would I need to configure the nameserver if I didn't have one configured before?
I've just set up a connection on another box (windows :() and I only need to provide the username and password for the connection. No DNS configuration whatsoever.
These data are provided automatically to you when you connect. Don't know how it works on linux, never tried it.

foobar47
2006-03-01, 01:54 AM CST
So, you should put your ISP DNS ip in the /etc/resolv.conf

linmix
2006-03-01, 02:01 AM CST
erm... no, I never did so why should I - I'm not saying you're not right, simply pointing out I never needed to and would like to understand why all of a sudden I should, especially since up to yesterday everything worked like a charm.

foobar47
2006-03-01, 02:04 AM CST
Perhaps you miss something... but, what is the status of SELinux ?

linmix
2006-03-01, 08:46 AM CST
.. and how do I find out.

I need to get as much info as I can before I go home to my internet disabled box and can't check uup anymore.

Selinux is activated, that much I know. I didn't update the selinux policies though.

linmix
2006-03-01, 02:57 PM CST
It's the DNS!!
I tried again and 64.*** gives me google.
So what's the next step? I'll need to get the DNS of my ISP and then where do I put that?

linmix
2006-03-01, 03:05 PM CST
I can hardly believe my eyes: my ISP has specific instructions on how to set up the connection using KPPP!
After reading through it I have added the ISP's DNS servers and I think I may have located the origin of the error. I wasn't ussing their DNS before, but I just may have checked a box saying "disble existing DNS servers during connection" and that might explain the failure I experienced. A million thanks to everyone who put in his two cents (or dollars!!) to get this fixed. I really appreciate your help!

foobar47
2006-03-02, 02:10 AM CST
Ok, so, good news !! :p