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taylor65 11th November 2004 08:36 PM

Playing CDs with FC3
 
When I put an audio CD into either my CD drive or DVD drive, gnome-cd appears and says 'Drive Error'. I also see that the CD icon appears on the desktop. I forget if that icon appeared in FC2. In either case, anyone else having this error message?

fatal_error 12th November 2004 08:56 AM

Indeed, I also experience problems when it comes down to burn CD's (tried it with xcdroast and k3b): obviously the CD/DVD-devices now belong to a logical volume group (??), which is only accessable by root on my system, this means both k3b or xcdroast wont find ANY CD/DVD-device on my machine, so im right at the moment back to floppies :-) Anyone knowing a hint or possible solution for this issue?

PS: I've never had to deal with Logical Volume Groups...may this the cause for the errors?

imdeemvp 12th November 2004 09:33 AM

I got same error.

Pegasus 12th November 2004 11:03 AM

Works for me without any problems

imdeemvp 12th November 2004 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegasus
Works for me without any problems

In fc3....?

Pegasus 12th November 2004 11:49 AM

Yes, in FC3 final ... logged in as normal user
While reading this thread, i insert an audio-cd in my drive and tried to get the shown error ... but the cd started playing the music...

also i've seen in this forum, that there are several questions about the "new" ftsab layout. (media vs. mnt).
Here is the fstab i'm working with:
Code:

# This file is edited by fstab-sync - see 'man fstab-sync' for details
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /                      ext3    defaults        1 1
LABEL=/boot            /boot                  ext3    defaults        1 2
none                    /dev/pts                devpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
none                    /dev/shm                tmpfs  defaults        0 0
none                    /proc                  proc    defaults        0 0
none                    /sys                    sysfs  defaults        0 0
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swap                    swap    defaults        0 0
/dev/hdc1              /mnt/windows            vfat rw,umask=0000,uid=500,gid=pegasus 0 0
/dev/hdd                /media/cdrom            auto    pamconsole,ro,exec,noauto,managed 0 0
/dev/hdb                /media/cdrecorder      auto    pamconsole,ro,exec,noauto,managed 0 0
/dev/fd0                /media/floppy          auto    pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0

Addon:
Tested CD-Burning -> works fine,too (i've downloaded the rescuecd.iso)

Edit2:
I've DISABLED SELINUX. My posted fstab differ from yours for media ( ... pamconsole,fscontext=system_u:object_r:removable_t, ... )
You might also have problems using floppy disks ...

taylor65 12th November 2004 12:57 PM

I didn't get the logical volumes because the auto-partition didn't work on my system. I had to manually partition. So now I need to check to see if I can burn a CD? I disabled selinux on my system.

sayeeth 12th November 2004 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylor65
I didn't get the logical volumes because the auto-partition didn't work on my system. I had to manually partition. So now I need to check to see if I can burn a CD? I disabled selinux on my system.

It is even remotely possible that SELinux is interferring with CD-Burning?

Paul_Vandenberg 12th November 2004 01:09 PM

You should also make sure you have installed the update to udev. It fixes a disk access problem.

Paul

madopal 13th November 2004 01:50 AM

Install vs. Upgrade
 
I'm having the same problem...and I upgraded from FC2. Any of you folk out there ok after upgrading vs. installing fresh?

imdeemvp 13th November 2004 03:48 AM

I did a fresh installation and having some issues for now.....but I will try to find solutions for it.

kishalaya 13th November 2004 06:32 AM

well I did these two things to make the CD play
(in root login)
1. ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom
2. chmod +rw /dev/hdd

(/dev/hdd is my cdrom)

imdeemvp 13th November 2004 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kishalaya
well I did these two things to make the CD play
(in root login)
1. ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom
2. chmod +rw /dev/hdd

(/dev/hdd is my cdrom)

Great fix... you are the man! :p

crackers 13th November 2004 05:17 PM

The problem is that "fix" disappears on re-boot - udev wipes it out. The updated package fixes the /dev/cdrom and permissions issues.

taylor65 13th November 2004 07:14 PM

I updated udev per suggestion - that fixed the problem. Thanks!

mightymidget 14th November 2004 02:21 PM

I had exactly the same problem. Fixed it by installing the UDEV update via 'Up2date' udev-039-10.FC3.1.

Fedora's 'announcment list' sent out a mail notification to advise of this problem on the 8th Nov.
Quote ''Due to debugging code left accidently in the FC3 udev package,
SIGCHLD signals are blocked in udev, which prevents getting the proper
exit status in udev.rules. This means no cdrom symlinks are created
and pam_console does not apply desktop user ownerships to any cdrom
devices.
All users are urged to upgrade to this version after the installation
of Fedora Core 3'' End quote.

I queried this a few days ago and I'm very suprised that more users (especially new users) aren't quering this more.

Still it's a simple fix once you know whats causing the problem

jcridge 14th November 2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayeeth
It is even remotely possible that SELinux is interferring with CD-Burning?


Mine is working fine as well with FC3 fresh install, but I have SELinux disabled.

sayeeth 14th November 2004 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcridge
Mine is working fine as well with FC3 fresh install, but I have SELinux disabled.

Ok, I wish to try with SELinux disabled. How am I supposed to do that? I have no desire to do a reinstallation.

bob 14th November 2004 04:05 PM

Sayeeth, here's a page that discusses it all:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc3/

justlarry 21st November 2004 02:46 AM

Installed FC3 over FC2 a few days ago; just noticed today that 1) neither CD-ROM will play (the drive error mentioned above) and 2) TuxRacer, which ran fine in FC2, is sluggish in FC3.

Tried updating the udev but up2date says it could not be found...current version (and the only one available via Synaptic) is 0.39-8.FC3. I guess I'm gonna have to reinstall FC2, in which everything worked :(

Any help greatly appreciated; keep in mind I'm only a Newb so I need a major amount of hand-holding. Thanks.

Finalzone 21st November 2004 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justlarry
Installed FC3 over FC2 a few days ago; just noticed today that 1) neither CD-ROM will play (the drive error mentioned above) and 2) TuxRacer, which ran fine in FC2, is sluggish in FC3.

Which videocard do you have? Since Tux is a 3D games, you need to install a driver to enable hardware accelerated.

Quote:

Tried updating the udev but up2date says it could not be found...current version (and the only one available via Synaptic) is 0.39-8.FC3. I guess I'm gonna have to reinstall FC2, in which everything worked :(
Check out the repository of your Synaptic and up2date (by doing gedit /etc/syconfig/rhn/sources logged as root).

LinuxNewb 27th November 2004 05:00 PM

ok my udev is updated, and it reads my cdrom when i insert it, cd player pops up and plays it, however i dont hear anything, i can play mp3s fine in mplayer and hear them. also i cant seem to load the cd on mplayer. it doesnt see it anywhere. any suggestions?

bob 27th November 2004 11:31 PM

LinuxNewb, I hope you don't end up with the same solution I did when I couldn't play CD's. Turned out that I was trying to play them from my CD-burner, but the cable to my audio input was connected to my CD-rom.

Joey 5th December 2004 02:02 AM

I have udev-039-10.FC3.4.i386.rpm installed but that doesn't seem to solve the problem for me. Any ideas?

marcolinux 19th December 2004 10:16 PM

also i've update udev, but nothing works. i've got Cd Sound Jouicer working but no other application makes me listen to my audio cd (poking out a superblock error...)
i'd have it under /media/cdrecorder... maybe udev fix only /cdrom problem?
i've edited udev and udev rules as i find out somewhere in forums, but nothing solv my problem... i've soooo sad :-(

bye,
marco

marcolinux 19th December 2004 10:26 PM

in xmms and kscd i've used /dev/hdc (my cdrom drive) and it seems to work... maybe forever!

byebye,
marco

jejones3141 22nd December 2004 05:33 AM

gnome-cd fires up when I put an audio CD in the drive, and it can read enough of the CD to identify it and show title, artist, and track listings.... but it won't play the CD. It also seems to be preoccupied; it doesn't respond to window close some of the time. cdp from a shell window plays the CD, in the same drive, without problem---which I'd think precludes permission problems. I installed FC3 from the official release, and have run up2date and updated what it said was updateable.

I'm about to go visit my sister with her Christmas computer and until now was going to put FC3 on it, but this (and the hassle involved with the nvidia driver) are making me hesitate and consider other distros. nvidia is probably liveable with--she doesn't need to upgrade immediately with every new version of nvidia--but the CD playing is probably a deal-breaker.

imdeemvp 22nd December 2004 07:49 AM

jejones3141,
1. Which sound card brand are you using? Where you able to do a sound test during installation? Also, in gnome check the volume contrl center and make sure is not muted.

2. After setting up my yum repo's I installed nvidia drivers via yum as explained here. So I have 3d acceleration.

jejones3141 22nd December 2004 11:16 AM

ideemvp,

Thanks. Got the nvidia driver going.

About audio CD playing: checked the volume control; CD isn't muted. It plays fine with cdp, and with xmms after editing the audio CD plugin configuration to use /media/cdrom rather than /mnt/cdrom. The sound card is a SoundBlaster Live.

gnome-cd correctly displays the album title, artist, and track list... but won't play. The track time/elapsed time is blank; when I explicitly select a track, I see the track time and elapsed time (0:00, of course) for a moment, then it disappears again. rpm -q gnome-media shows that I have 2.8.0-3.FC3.1.

dersmi 22nd December 2004 02:15 PM

I have the same problem of loading any media, floppies, CD ROMs, all are rejected by Fedora 3. Keep getting bad super block, filesystem not known. What is this udev update?

Mad Cow 25th December 2004 08:25 PM

If you launch up2date you'll see the udev update. Check the box for udev and hit next, and you'll be on your way.

I'm having a problem with my cd player as well. It'll open the cd and display the tracks, but I can never get it to start playing. As we speak I am using sound juicer to copy the music off of the CD, and it plays just fine once copied, but I just can't get it to work in the CD player. I have it set to play /dev/hdc, which is (of course) the CD drive. I'm going to go try burning a CD, but I'm almost absolutely positive that will work.

crackers 26th December 2004 04:28 AM

You might need to check that the audio cable from the CD-ROM is properly inserted into your sound-card or motherboard...

Mad Cow 27th December 2004 12:17 AM

Hmmm... that might be it.

Actually, I'm not sure I know what you mean by that. I have the power cable and the large ribbon cable coming from the back of the drive, but is there supposed to be another cable? I would think that the CD player could just play using the large data cable...

crackers 27th December 2004 12:40 AM

Nope - there's another audio-only cable. It has four connections on each end, but typically only uses three wires (red, white, black). If you assembled the machine yourself, it should have come with either (or both) the motherboard or the CD-ROM itself.

Mad Cow 27th December 2004 03:54 AM

Alright, that explains what one of those odd ports on the back is (you wouldn't happen to know what the other one on the back goes to, would you?).

But I really wouldn't think that the software wouldn't be able to read the CD using the data cable and play through the soundcard that way. Afterall, iTunes does it, Windows Media Player (*shudder*) does it, all sorts of things can play it w/out that cable. Why not this program? I don't have my speaker plugged into the drive, after all. They are coming from the sound card, like they should be.

(Just checking - Are we talking about the same thing? Using the default CD player in FC3 to play my CDs when I put it in?)

OmniUni 27th December 2004 04:13 AM

Digital Audio Extracton
 
For a while now, Window$ uses Digital Audio Extraction to play CD's. Linux has been getting progressively better at supporting this as well. In XMMS, open preferences and configure the CD Audio Plugin. You will see a check box for the Audio Extraction. KsCD also has this feature under it's configuration. This should allow you to play the cd's without the extra cable (which provides an analog signal directly to the soundcard).

Good Luck! (Took me a while to figure this one out myself!) :)

crackers 27th December 2004 04:23 AM

Ah, I didn't know about that item. Good call, OmniUni. Ya learn something new every day...

Be that it may, if you can't get DAE to work, as suggested, you should be able to get the physical cable for less than $3 US (guessing). Then you connect the appropriate end to the back of the CD-ROM and the other end to your sound-card. The connector on the sound-card should be visibly marked (CD-ROM) and "keyed" (connector only goes in one way). The other end, for the CD-ROM, should be inserted with the red wire going to "R" (Right), which should also be marked on the back of the drive.

Mad Cow 27th December 2004 05:41 AM

Alright, thanks all. I don't know that I will go the route of getting that cable, because playing CDs live is not at all important to me. I would end up copying them within a few minutes anyway, so there's not a real point to going through the trouble.

But knowing the problem's cause is a great relief. Indeed, I've learned something new as well.

Now I've got to hunt down the elusive (probably not actually so) LAME plugin, that I might use Audacity to save MP3s. But this should be simple, and if it isn't, it'll make a good topic in some other place, some other day.

Also off-topic, I just realized I could burn CDs in Nautilus today. That made me excited. I should really pay more attention...

comanche 4th February 2005 05:48 AM

I tried
ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
and
chmod +rw /dev/hdc
but where do i go to listen to the files through xmms?

imdeemvp 4th February 2005 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comanche
I tried
ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
and
chmod +rw /dev/hdc
but where do i go to listen to the files through xmms?

You can open the terminal and do it like this:
Code:

xmms /mnt/cdrom


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