extremely slow first boot of fedora 9

[marko]

I have a usb keyboard and usb mouse but my xorg.conf has no mouse section at all and it works fine. Are you sure you need that mouse section?

I have a optical logitech usb mouse and Matias usb 2.0 keyboard, the
video card is a Nvidia 8800GT (XFX) so I'm using the closed driver

smolt entry:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pu...3-b952f32d1e86

This is part of my xorg.conf

.........
Section "InputDevice"

# keyboard added by rhpxl
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option      "XkbLayout" "us+inet"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Videocard0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        Option      "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Videocard0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

The only good discussion I found about repeating keys was on a ubuntu thread:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/124406

someone there worked around it by turning off key repeat in the system setup

in kde4 -> system setup -> keyboard and mouse -> either turn off keyboard repeat or increase the time limit so it's less sensitive

post #18 here mentions using a usb hub as an intermediary to between pc and (keyboard/mouse) helps:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=201445

I'd suggest looking into updating the BIOS if possible

[axelmangr]

I am not sure if I need the mouse section on the xorg.conf. It wasn't there so I thought maybe adding it would help. In my laptop which has the same kernel there is no mouse section there.

I'll see what I can do with the time limit and the repeat through kde and let you know.

What really troubles me though is that if I start at runlevel 2 and from there startx none of this happens. If from runlevel 2 I enter runlevel 5 then it happens. Also if I boot at runlevel 5 it happens

/axelmangr

[marko]

Originally Posted by axelmangr

What really troubles me though is that if I start at runlevel 2 and from there startx none of this happens. If from runlevel 2 I enter runlevel 5 then it happens. Also if I boot at runlevel 5 it happens

/axelmangr

Hi
So it's likely a service that only runlevel 5 uses and not RL2.
This is what I get on my F9 X64 machine, the second column
is all the services that runlevel 5 runs that RL 2 doesn't
have and the only one that RL 2 has that RL 5 doesn't is
the 'gpm cut and paste mouse server' for the virtual consoles.
You might need to see what subset of those are running, then
try turning off any you don't use. The issue might disappear...
or you might have to keep going.

RL2
S85gpm

RL 5
S00fedora-live
S13irqbalance
S18rpcidmapd
S19rpcgssd
S25fuse
S25netfs
S56xinetd
S90kerneloops
S95atd
S96avahi-daemon
S96xenstored
S97blktapctrl
S97libvirtd
S97xenconsoled
S98haldaemon
S98xend
S99cobblerd
S99fedora-late-live
S99xendomains

[axelmangr]

ok, thanx for the tip. I'll do that and let you know of the results as soon as I go home.

[axelmangr]

Hi,

after trying and trying and trying I ended up with the following solution: I used "noapic acpi=off" at the kerenel parameters while starting. Now both mouse and keyboard work ok.

My question is what are these two parameters? I have searched around the web but the only thing I found was how this solved the problem on other people. Not what it actually is or does. Can anyone provide me with some more details or direct me somewhere to read about these two parameters. Is there any potential harm in the pc if they are used?

thanx again for all your help
/axelmangr

[marko]

APIC stands for Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller, it's an upgrade to what was called a PIC (Programmable Interrupt Controller), the upgrade was mostly to better support motherboards with more than one cpu so that cpus can get exclusive use of certain hardwares without interfering with each other (imagine two cores trying to use the floppy at the same time)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_APIC_Architecture
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/APIC
http://www.evilbitz.com/2006/12/08/i...pt-controllers

In your case with a single P4 cpu, turning off the apic is not a big deal since there's just the one cpu.

ACPI is the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface, it's a interface on the motherboard that lets the OS control power usage, put the system into hibernate and suspend modes.

http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/ACPI

Your particular board probably has an obsolete BIOS (so I suggested trying to flash it to a newer one) or the Linux implementation of the ACPI/APIC is buggy. Not having acpi on might be a bigger loss, maybe you can try "noapic" by itself and acpi=off by itself to make sure you really need to get rid of acpi.

[axelmangr]

thanx a lot for the tips and sorry for the late response. I will try asap to use them separately and let you know.

In the meantime, I noticed something else. I set the time and I leave the pc. I come back a few hours later and the time is not accurate. In the beginning I thought I did not set it right. But I kept noticing this. No matter what I do, the time looses a few minutes every hour. I don't know if it is looses the same amount of minutes every hour. Any chance this is related?

thanx
/axel

[valente.ro]

maybe the network cause your problems

[marko]

Originally Posted by axelmangr

I set the time and I leave the pc. I come back a few hours later and the time is not accurate.
/axel

It could be... You can avoid that problem by running ntp (network time protocol)
as root run

system-config-services

select ntpd from the list and use the Enabled and Start buttons

[axelmangr]

The issue has been resolved by taking out the parameter "acpi=off" from the boot options. Now I only use "noapic" if I want to have the mouse and keyboard function properly and the time to be accurate.

thanks a lot for your help

/axel