Grub 2

[Igby]

Originally Posted by Piscium

yum --enablerepo=rawhide list grub*

... I don't see any grub in rawhide. Any ideas?

Yes! Try

yum info grub2 --enablerepo=rawhide

Or with your yum option

yum list "grub*" --enablerepo=rawhide

Seems to be a problem with the wildcard. Please ask a person thats more qualified for informations.

Igby

[Piscium]

Thanks, Igby.

Grub2 is in rawhide all right. I missed it due to a change I had made to yum.conf (my oversight).

[marko]

Originally Posted by Piscium

Thanks, Igby.

Grub2 is in rawhide all right. I missed it due to a change I had made to yum.conf (my oversight).

I see grub2 in Fedora 12 official's update repository:

yum -v info grub2
....
Available Packages                                                                        
Name       : grub2                                                                        
Arch       : x86_64
Epoch      : 1
Version    : 1.97.1
Release    : 2.fc12
Size       : 720 k
Repo       : updates

does that mean it's stable and can be installed into Fedora 12 official?

wonder why they havent updated it to 1.97.2 both in rawhide an F12

[Piscium]

Originally Posted by marko

I see grub2 in Fedora 12 official's update repository:

yum -v info grub2
....
Available Packages                                                                        
Name       : grub2                                                                        
Arch       : x86_64
Epoch      : 1
Version    : 1.97.1
Release    : 2.fc12
Size       : 720 k
Repo       : updates

does that mean it's stable and can be installed into Fedora 12 official?

It says nowhere in the Grub2 website that there is such a thing as a stable version, it is very much under development.

In any case, this is the blurb on the Fedora 12 grub2 package (with yum info):

"PLEASE NOTE: This is a development snapshot, and as such will not
replace grub if you install it, but will be merely added as another
kernel to your existing GRUB menu. Do not replace GRUB (grub package)
with it unless you know what are you doing. Refer to README.Fedora
file that is part of this package's documentation for more information."

Right now it takes me about 20 minutes to build and install a new Grub2 version (like 1.97.2 last week), however I spent many hours last year reading about Grub2 and making plans before I first installed it. It is very easy to put the PC in an unbootable state if one is not careful.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/b...buildID=155882

Grub2 1.97.2 in Koji

[liangsuilong]

I tried to ask to update grub2 and replace grub with grub2 in the devel mail list. I got the reply that there is no need to do it. The reason is grub-legacy is useful enough and grub2 has a lot of bugs. So Fedora has no plan to set grub2 as bootloader. They do not think that maintaining two default bootloader or another new bootloader is needed.

I just hope RPM-based distros and DEB-based distros have an unified bootloader. Debian is using grub2 now and Fedora is using grub. I have dual-boot computer. My father is using Ubuntu for browsing website and word processing. I am using Fedora for building rpms and trying new features. Now I prefer to use grub rather than grub2. Configuring grub2 on Ubuntu is wasting a lot of time for dual-boot.

Notice: VGA parameters of kernel is still unavailable on grub2. So plymouth does not work if you are using proprietary display drivers.

[Dies]

Originally Posted by liangsuilong

...
Notice: VGA parameters of kernel is still unavailable on grub2. So plymouth does not work if you are using proprietary display drivers.

That's not true.

It's just different, vga parameters are obsolete since grub2 can pass the mode for you. Instead of using vga=0x31a or whatever, you would use something like

set gfxpayload=1280x1024x32

Of course you would want to set that to the highest mode supported by your card, if you don't know this just ask grub2 to display available modes using 'vbeinfo'.


HTH

i think you'll find Fedora will wait for 1.98 or 1.99 of Grub2 an then use it as Default. 1.97 was rather sloppy

i see Grub2 1.98 released, will post the changelog here once i can find it

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ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/

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http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gr.../msg00017.html changelog might be found in here

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wonder if F14 will use this?

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anyone else remember that other Grub2 thread? cannot find it

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http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=231862

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found it. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=232875