"Waiting in Queue" annoyance in F14

[satishj]

Whenever i open Add/Remove softwares in Fedora14, bottom left pane of thw window shows this message "Waiting in queue".no packages are displayed and it makes package manager useless.
This same meesage is displayed if i open 'software sources' from system-->preferences
Any idea how to solve this??

[giulix]

Yes, open the System Monitor (Applications->System Tools->System Monitor) or a terminal and kill the Packagekit instance that is idling and stopping concurrent instances from running

[satishj]

But,there is no such process with name 'PackageKit' running in background???

[giulix]

Weird... Have you not rebooted since last week? Could you please post the output of

ps -ef |egrep -i 'yum|packagekit|gpk-application'

? Also, check if /var/run/yum.pid exists, and if it does, delete it

[satishj]

Originally Posted by giulix

Weird... Have you not rebooted since last week? Could you please post the output of

ps -ef |egrep -i 'yum|packagekit|gpk-application'

? Also, check if /var/run/yum.pid exists, and if it does, delete it

The command gives me 2 processes in the output,out of which one was the same as command itself..
Also,there is no yum.pid file in the path specified.
What i cannot understand is why system monitor is not showing that process and the 'ps' command you gave is showing it..
PS::I cannot post the output of command as internet is not working on fedora,but i can logged in fedora and have tested the command..
I suppose i can kill this process as follows:

sudo kill pid

UPDATE:
No,even if i kill the process,then also the software sources window remains empty and displays 'Waiting in queue' meesage as is the case with Add/Remove software Window.
Pls help in solving it...

[giulix]

Originally Posted by satishj

I suppose i can kill this process as follows:

sudo kill pid

Nope, wrong assumption. This is not Ubuntu. Try just to kill it as your normal user (NOT root):

Edit: Alternatively, use this command:

kill $(ps -ef |egrep -i 'yum|packagekit|gpk-application' |grep -v egrep |awk '{print $2}')

just make sure you're not root

[satishj]

Originally Posted by giulix

Edit: Alternatively, use this command:

kill $(ps -ef |egrep -i 'yum|packagekit|gpk-application' |grep -v egrep |awk '{print $2}')

just make sure you're not root

This is waht i get on using above command:

[satish@TITAN ~]$ kill $(ps -ef |egrep -i 'yum|packagekit|gpk-application' |grep -v egrep |awk '{print $2}')
bash: kill: (2057) - Operation not permitted
bash: kill: (2059) - Operation not permitted
[satish@TITAN ~]$

[giulix]

That's correct: You are not allowed to kill processes you don't own. But you should be able to Add/Remove packages or update your system. The fact that some process runs in the background at all times preventing you from doing any of the above is very odd. You could try rebooting and running a system update immediately after. It would also be interesting to have a list of all your running processes after, say 10 minutes from boot, to see what's going on:

ps -ef

will list all processes on your system

[jmnielsen]

You might be able to track down the process (assuming it uses something with yum, rpm etc in its naming). ie: /var/cache/yum

For instance (as ROOT):

lsof | grep -i yum

I see some yumBacken... processes. The second field is the PID you can kill.

lsof | grep -i rpm

Might show you what rpms the process is trying to install etc if at all.

[satishj]

iam still looking for resolution to this annoyance..
This prob has rendered my fedora partition useless

[satishj]

wait..i just observed this..
if iam connected to internet,then it works fine.I can search/download/install packages w/o any issues.But when iam offline,Add/remove software do not list the packages and gives this 'Waiting' message at below left corner.
Icome from ubuntu world..so iam finding this really frustating..
Any inputs now????

[satishj]

It just slipped out of my mind that i have this problem and it is STILL not resolved.
ideas pls...
After a long time,i booted to fedora and faced this issue again.
Why..o why is add/remove program NOT WORKING WITHOUT INTERNET?????
So,now,can anyone pls assist me or should i delete the fedora partition and make use of it as another storage partition.
I really do not wish to depart with fedora,but,given this annoying problem,i think i have no other option left.

[glennzo]

You've answered your own question. In post 11 you stated

if iam connected to internet,then it works fine.I can search/download/install packages w/o any issues.But when iam offline,Add/remove software do not list the packages and gives this 'Waiting' message at below left corner.

You need to be connected to the Internet for the application to work properly.

[satishj]

Originally Posted by glennzo

You've answered your own question. In post 11 you stated You need to be connected to the Internet for the application to work properly.

so,does that mean fedora needs Internet connection just to view the available packages.This is a real shocker.
Is there no other way,wherein,the package list(of repos) not being fetched from Internet(just like Ubuntu way)???
WHY IS THIS POINT NOT MENTIONED IN FEDORA 14 DOCUMENTATION??

[megaloman]

Originally Posted by glennzo

You've answered your own question. In post 11 you stated You need to be connected to the Internet for the application to work properly.

Actually, the assumption, that user has permanent and instant internet connection is very annoying. Why? I use my laptop at home and on the go, while on the go, I have limited data allowance in my broadband - do I want to waste it on packages / metadata info updates? obviously not. Other annoyance is - whenever I want to check if package is available in my repos, it updates the packages list - what for? that should only happen, when user requests it asking for updates, or to refresh packages list.