FC1 to FC5 nightmare

[Bunny Boy]

I've been mostly happy running FC1, but it had a few problems. One was that it recognized my Optorite CDRW burner as only a CD-ROM, and the other was that it could not mount my ntfs hd. I was told that upgrading to FC5 would solve these problems.

So today I tried to install, but the upgrade procedure did not work. Every time I tried it, it would hang. So, since I hadn't been running FC1 all that long, I didn't have that much to lose, so I tried the full install. Well, that got me up and running, but I couldn't get my modem to work, among other things.

I had to reinstall FC1 just to get back on the internet. My modem is a Creative DE5625, which I've been told is an excellent modem for Linux. Even though FC1 tells me it can't detect it, when I set up my dialer for a generic modem, it works fine. When I try the same procedure with FC5, it tells me it doesn't work because of "error 2" whatever that means.

I'm also a bit perplexed about the user interface. This new version of GNOME that comes with FC5 is very different. What happened to the hardware manager? I don't see the application for installing new hardware or installing software packages. There's a software upgrade on the menu, but it crashes.

I have no clue what's going on here, but I do have a suspicion that my CD drive could be causing problems. It is, in general, somewhat unreliable. Even though it is fairly new, it behaves badly, refusing to open its door, spinning loudly, etc. Could it be that all I need to do is get a better drive?

I would appreciate any insight about this matter. If there is more information I could provide to help with diagnosis, please let me know.

[tashirosgt]

Which dialer program are you using? A google on DE5625 indicates that it is an external serial modem so the dialer must be configured to use the correct device name for the port. I usually resort to trial and error to find this name.

[Bunny Boy]

Originally Posted by tashirosgt

Which dialer program are you using? A google on DE5625 indicates that it is an external serial modem so the dialer must be configured to use the correct device name for the port. I usually resort to trial and error to find this name.

Dialer? Well, I'm just using the network configuration applet. In FC 1 I just add a modem device, whereupon I get a message that tells me it can't find a modem. OK, I say, and then simply accept the defaults, then it sets up a generic modem driver and I'm off and running. After that I use modem lights to activate and it works just peachy.

That's in FC 1. In FC 5 it's another story. I can do the exact same procedure with the same user interface, but when I try to activate I get "error 2."

The default settings just call the modem /dev/modem and the port Modem0 in both FC 1 and FC 5.

The other thing that worries me about FC 5 is that I don't know how to do some things in it. Even if I could get my modem to work, there are system applets missing.

In FC 1 I have System Settings >> Add/Remove Applications for package installation and then there's
System Tools >> Hardware Browser. Neither of these appears in the menu in FC 5. So suppose I want to install an application that I forgot to on the OS installation? How do I do it? If I want to get the hd parameters so I can edit fstab to mount my other hds, how do I get that without the hardware browser?

[Firewing1]

FC1 > FC5 !
It's highly disrecommended to even do something like FC4 > FC5 or FC5 > FC6. Never mind FC1 > FC5! I'd backup and format.
Firewing1

[Bunny Boy]

Originally Posted by Firewing1

FC1 > FC5 !
It's highly disrecommended to even do something like FC4 > FC5 or FC5 > FC6. Never mind FC1 > FC5! I'd backup and format.
Firewing1

I did reformat. Thought I made that clear. The update attempt just hung, so I formatted and installed FC5, but there's no Hardware Browser or Add/Remove Applications. (and the modem doesn't work)

[Firewing1]

For hardware browser, if you don't mind using the terminal 'lspci' will do...

Have you tried setting up the modem with the GUI configuration tool?
Firewing1

[lazlow]

Hardware browser: yum install hwbrowser

Install packages: Apllications->Add/Remove software

For updates (at least to start) : yum update yum (do this one first to avoid headaches)
:yum update

Unfortunately I cannot help with the modem. All the above will have to wait until you get the net connection figured out.

Every time there is a new release one has to hunt around and find all the things one is used to. You jumped a few versions so you have to expect to have an even harder time.

Good Luck
Lazlow

[Bunny Boy]

Originally Posted by Firewing1

Have you tried setting up the modem with the GUI configuration tool?
Firewing1

I'm not sure what you mean by that. If you mean did I use System Settings >> Network in gnome, then, yeah, that's exactly how I did it. (worked in FC1 but not in FC5)