General Questions

miller0521 · #1 18th July 2006, 07:26 PM

I am wondering how up to date Fedora stays. Like when a new version of Gnome or KDE come out, how long before I can expect to update to it? Or would it not be updated untill a new version of Fedora is out, say Fedora 6? Also, why is there so many CD's? Are there no repo's online for Fedora?

ccrvic · #2 18th July 2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by miller0521

I am wondering how up to date Fedora stays.

It's hard to be quantitative, but Fedora is fairly close to the development edge. Too close for my taste, at times.

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Originally Posted by miller0521

Like when a new version of Gnome or KDE come out, how long before I can expect to update to it? Or would it not be updated untill a new version of Fedora is out, say Fedora 6?

It gets updated; you don't have to wait for the next distro release.

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Originally Posted by miller0521

Also, why is there so many CD's? Are there no repo's online for Fedora?

There are repos online - but some of us like to be able to install without an Internet connection. The full CD set allows you to do just that.

Vic.

RedFedora · #3 18th July 2006, 07:32 PM

Unfortunately, I've not been able to perform an install (even minimal) without at
least two of the CDs.

gtr225 · #4 18th July 2006, 08:06 PM

For the most up-to-date KDE packages you can use the KDE Packaging Project @ http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

ccrvic · #5 18th July 2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gtr225

For the most up-to-date KDE packages you can use the KDE Packaging Project @ http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

I got in all sorts of trouble using that... :-(

Vic.

gtr225 · #6 18th July 2006, 08:21 PM

Sorry, nevermind then.

***Firewing1*** · #7 18th July 2006, 08:41 PM

Yup, Fedora's bleeding edge so it's only usually a few days before the new stuff comes out, and maybe a few more for testing. Gnome 2.14 was included only a week after it came out!
Firewing1

miller0521 · #8 18th July 2006, 09:07 PM

Thanks for the answers, I have Fedora installed, and it is now using the Package Updater, but that does seem to be very slow. Is there another program I should be using for package management? Or is this the best one for this particular distro? I know with Mepis I used one called Synaptic, or perhaps its just that rpm is slower than the debian based? Not sure, it seems to be running KDE smoothly though. Just not so sure it shoudl take this long to update packages.

gtr225 · #9 18th July 2006, 10:19 PM

I use yum which is a command based program you can use in the shell. As root just run

Code:

# yum update

***Firewing1*** · #10 18th July 2006, 11:46 PM

Code:

su -
yum install yumex

will get YumEx installed which has mirror detection making it considerably faster. If you're feeling risky, update to the development yum 2.9.x which has HUGE speed increases, but things might not work so well as it's development. For me, at least, it's been rock-solid so far... I'd give it a try:

Code:

yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=development --enablerepo=extras-development update yum yumex

Also note, though, that your first ever yum run or your first ever run of 'Software Updater' - Even with the new development speed-ups - WILL be extremely slow as it's paring all the metadata from scratch. Runs following the first should be faster.
Firewing1

thewiz103 · #11 19th July 2006, 12:11 AM

I cannot update, upgrade , install ir get yum to work...
It either temporarly acnnot resolve name-or time out with no mors mirrors or Errno256. Using soft ware updater i get--Component: Software Updater
Summary: TBb67341a4 tsflags.py:24:init_hook:AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'add_option'....... What is wrong with fc5?? i was happy with fc4 but this one acts up and i am lost..cannot get it to update any thing.
please some one help me please.. i want to use fc5 but it won't work...
charlie

***Firewing1*** · #12 19th July 2006, 12:52 AM

What happens when you run:

Code:

su -
yum update

Firewing1

miller0521 · #13 19th July 2006, 01:13 AM

Well I just wasted my entire evening. It took yumex about 3 hours to upgrade Fedora, and then on reboot, it can't load a few files and I never even see the bootsplash screen, I get a console prompt and if i type a username it does nothing, just redisplays the prompt again.

No clue what to do from here other than go with another distro. Thats such a shame really. Spent all evening updating

gtr225 · #14 19th July 2006, 01:20 AM

This was a fresh install of Fedora Core 5?

***Firewing1*** · #15 19th July 2006, 01:21 AM

I think there's been an error somewhere, I've never heard of this happening before. I'd try re-installing from scratch, it should help. If it happens again, then maybe just incase you might want to check your RAM for errors to make sure there's not faulty - Updates shouldn't take that long, and it shouldn't render your system unbootable...
Firewing1