Check this out! Vista DMCA

[pandiatonicism]

I have a dual boot system with fedora 5 and Vista (I just put it on to check out thier progress or lack there of). I 've been using it off and on for the the last month and not downloaded any torrents, mainly because Vista has some sort of protection built in to not let the client software work right. Anyway I downloaded one file using bittorrent and a day later I get this message when I tried to get online. in order to reinstate my internet connection I was routed to a go.microsoft site.




The Digital Millennium Copyright Act, known as DMCA, was signed into law by President Clinton in 1998 to provide certain remedies for a copyright holder who has reason to believe that an Internet user is infringing his or her copyrights. This law permits copyright holders, or their representatives, to notify Internet service providers that specific customers have been identified as having files containing infringing material. As an Internet service provider, Cox Communications respects the privacy of our customers but must also meet our legal obligations when a DMCA infringement notice is received.

We have received a notice stating that your computer contains files that infringe copyrights of a third party. Under the DMCA, we have the responsibility to temporarily disable your Internet access, until such time as you take the necessary steps to remove the infringing files and to prevent further distribution of copyrighted material. Please take the following steps immediately in order to address this request and have your Internet access restored:

Step 1. Remove the copyrighted files. the following files must be deleted from your computer:



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Title: xxxxxxxx
Filename: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Filesize: 32435467

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Step 2. To avoid any future infringement, we highly recommend turning off the sharing feature of your peer-to-peer software, such as KazAa, Morpheus, Grokster, etc. For specific instructions on how to disable the feature for your specific software, consult with the software vendor.

Step 3. After deleting the files and disabling file sharing, you may click here to reactivate your service. Please note that reactivating your connection without cleaning your computer first may result in additional suspensions or permanent termination of your Cox High Speed Internet service

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I download stuff all the time with fedora and I used to download even more with winXP. what I'm wondering first of all is how they did this. My guess is that vista has monitor system set up in it and they reported it to COX internet, and that COX had to suspend my account. I would be greatful for more info on that. Does anyone know?

The other thing I'm wondering is if there is a safe way to reinstall windows xp on the partintion that I have vista on now. It seems like every install I do with fedora first and windows second that the master boot record gets trampled by window and I can't boot up fedora. So I've always installed windows first and then fedora. I'd like to try doing it the other way around this time....anyway......stay the hell away from vista.....it's horribly slow and dumbed down.

[cruicent]

first of all, bwastards!
second, if you boot up the fedora install disc doesnt it have an option to reinstall grub or something? I know very little about linux but I thought I saw it when I booted up the cd (and Im hoping to do it myself after I get windows installed again - its a mess).

edit: Go to rescue mode in the boot cd, take the steps to mount your system and edit grub?

[ccrvic]

Originally Posted by pandiatonicism

My guess is that vista has monitor system set up in it and they reported it to COX internet, and that COX had to suspend my account.

Much as I love conspiracy theories, it's far more likely that your ISP checks your P2P traffic & takes action when it sees certani signatures...

Vic.

[unamanic]

COX does not check P2P traffic (I know from experience). The MPAA and RIAA (and a few others) have people who look for shared copyrighted material and attempt to download it. If they can get it from you, they call your ISP. What really got me angry was that COX shut me down temporarily for sharing a file I got for free from a vendor's website.

[pandiatonicism]

that makes sence, but why the one file that I got with vista...coincidence? It could have just as easily been bittorrent and fedora?

[unamanic]

Stranger things have happened.

[wshawn]

This is not new news. If you watch the Key Not addresses from the Red Hat Summit, one of them goes into detail of the ability for an OS to tell the Hardware that software is bad and then cause the hardware to refuse to run it.

[Mat]

(Moved to Wibble)


Mat

[Invader02]

[quote]I'd like to try doing it the other way around this time....anyway......stay the hell away from vista.....it's horribly slow and dumbed down.[/quote[

It's actually as fast as Windows XP :P

it's dumbed down for the average user. Seriously, I've seen people do stupid things with their computers *cough* my sister has over 100 spyware/adware programs on her comp that regerates *cough*

If I were you I'd sue Microsoft for monitoring you without your consent. Course then again, they might have something in their license that would stop that.

BTW If you wanna keep the file, why not try copying the file under fedora onto your fedora partition and then delete the original.

[scotta3234]

This will show'em: http://www.onion-router.net/ I've wanted to try this out for a while now.

[wshawn]

This will show them better

[rappermas]

Yup, Vista refused to run a pirated game that my friend had (how did it know, I have no clue).

but, but, BUT!!! when we reinstalled it and disabled the internet connection, the game ran...

so, you guys make your own conclusions there.

[Nostrafus]

I got a message similar to that one from Psinet... They said I was attempting to break into a website (Which I wasn't) and they were going to shut down my connection. 24 hours later I had no internet. 24 hours later, I had my internet back up, an angry phone call is all it takes.

The real reason is I was denied permission to a website, it popped up a password box, and I clicked cancel... so it did it again... and I instead tried to close the browser, which then re-opened and went back to the login screen, I clicked the back button which forwarded me back to the login screen, and claimed I was attempting to hack their website.

...

I'd say in your case, call up Cox and tell them you received this e-mail and you don't even know what a "peer-to-peer thing" is (when they explain it to you say something like "Oh you mean like that Napter thing my cousin told me about?" (deliberate misspelling))

Tell them someone is obviously hacking your computer, and you're not sure their internet service is right for you if they don't offer protection for your computer (blame your "security problem" entirely on them)

I'm sure if you play dumb and offended you'll be able to get away with it... Also if they don't believe you, tell them you're going to have a talk with your "son" about what he's doing online... make them uncomfortable and ask if he's been going to porn sites...

Most companies are almost always willing to bend over backwards for an angry customer who has a *legitimate* complaint... isn't social engineering fun?

[Linux The Great]

Firstly, there is no way that Cox Communications has equipment that is that sophisticated. I've been their customer for about a year.

It is very likely that Microsoft is doing this. However, I'd like to know if the item you downloaded was under copyright. It could be that Microsoft doesn't distinguish between copyrighted files and non-copyrighted files (such as open source software).

Wouldn't it be nice for microsoft if windows users couldn't get at open software such as Linux.

I staying as far away from vista as I can. I've had enough of Windows.

that digital act is sacry stuff..!! sucks to be in the USA..

well sucks to be out here when monitores, vid cards, and dvd players start refusing to play these new formats!

Thats incredably scary stuff.

You could of course just rename the said file :P