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1st March 2007, 06:16 PM
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"Sean The Terrible" -- The forum(er) Vista® rep
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Originally Posted by Plossl
It may be in general, JN, but there must be other factors that influence the speed of an installation than only the DE. PCLOS in KDE is undoubtedly faster than Fedora running Gnome, on my system.
In fact, I daresay it's as fast as Zenwalk running xfce. The only way it could be faster is if it executed a command before I clicked on it. 
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Oh, agreed. I just read in another thread where one of our regulars (forget who) used Gentoo at uni and wasnt impressed. Asked what makes Gentoo so special. Speed my boy, sheer speed. Yeah, even on my big computer with a 4800 X2 and 4GB RAM I see a huge difference between Gentoo and FC. No doubt a lot of factors influence this. And I just mention the DE thing to fuel the flames. This is a confirmed test but I dont buy it. I think even with the same OS and same apps you would find differences from computer to computer. Some run KDE faster, some Gnome. As I stated before, with my computer I dont see any difference. XFCE is a tad faster, Flux faster yet, but I have generally found Fedora to be rather slow and bloated overall. XFCE in a basic install of Zenwalk absolutly flys on my computer. But so far I havent found anything that will touch a tweaked stripped install of Gentoo with Flux or Enlightenment.
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1st March 2007, 06:41 PM
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An ape descendant
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JN4OldSchool: I did not intend to restart an ancient war between KDE and GNOME. I just posted my comments about the speed of KDE in PCLOS. In fact PCLOS loaded something of NVIDIA (and recognized my video card) but I still had to install drivers and edit xorg.conf (considering the experience I've gained in FC6 it was a kid's game). Right now I have Beryl running!
Plossl: I completely agree with you, KDE in PCLOS is damn fast.
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1st March 2007, 06:44 PM
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An ape descendant
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The only thing I dislike from PCLOS is the fact that it denies the choice of KDE and GNOME (at least in the default installation). I use GNOME a lot too.
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1st March 2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JN4OldSchool
Come on Bob, your supposed to fuel the fire...Point taken on the menus though. I agree, KDE seems like it doesnt much like people fiddeling with the kmenu either. Causes all sorts of problems. I also agree with some other members that the BIGGEST thing I dislike about KDE is this:
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Oh, man I thought it was just me, LMAO!
As for the guy that said he wasn't impressed with Gentoo, either there is something seriously wrong with his machine or more likely he has no idea what he's doing or what flags to use.
On my machine Gentoo running Gnome just screams, no contest, just blows most other distros out of the water, boot up and shutdown are like 15 seconds, apps open almost instantly including OO which you barely catch a glimpse of the splash screen. Second closest is Slack although I haven't tried Zenwalk.
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1st March 2007, 07:37 PM
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"Sean The Terrible" -- The forum(er) Vista® rep
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On another note, and back to the spirit in which this thread was created...I just installed Sabayon in VMWare. Pretty cool! I see why it has a few loyal followers in here. Kuroo huh? Never heard of it before today. I just installed Sabayon so I cant critique it just yet, but first impressions are pretty good. I love Gentoo anyway, just not patient enough to use it full time. Not sure about the name and the color though. All that red, makes me want to fight someone...and what the hell does Sabayon mean anyway? It sounds like a war cry. I want to shake my spear over my head and run room to room screaming "Sabayoooonnnn" at the top of my lungs...
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1st March 2007, 07:59 PM
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Hello JN4OldSchool.
You've got sense of humor about this Sabayon. According to Wikipedia this is the meaning of Sabayon.
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"Sabayon is an Italian dessert made with egg yolks, sugar, a sweet liquor (usually Marsala wine), and sometimes cream or whole eggs. It is a very light custard, which has been whipped to incorporate a large amount of air."
Wikipedia.
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Joe.
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1st March 2007, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JN4OldSchool
I just installed Sabayon so I cant critique it just yet, but first impressions are pretty good.
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Well, I'll get you started.
Downsides - It's an all or nothing install, no choice there so that's kind of crappy, it's bleeding edge, really bleeding edge. Not that you'll want to but forget about performing a full update unless you're some kind of Gentoo guru. Don't try to remove a lot of stuff unless you know how to recover. It " just works" kind of easy to break.
Upsides- You'll get no complaints from newcomers that this or that isn't supported, kuroo makes emerge simple, pretty stable, live help available on the desktop, small but cool community, it "just works".
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2nd March 2007, 07:51 AM
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Fedora 6 runs faster for me than anything, but then again I compile the kernel with my preferences. Last time I tried PCLOS it had a wonky Xorg version which caused me problems. I will definitely be trying the next final version when it comes out because I see even the test version has Xorg 7.1 now. Huge difference in performance from previous versions and hopefuly those old bugs are gone in the distro. I liked .92, hated .93, that was the bug ridden one for me.
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