xorg freeze when using FireFox (Livelock/deadlock)

[ambient1]

I'm using FC6, updated to 26 feb 2007 updates.

Default Gnome + metacity (no GL effects)

ATI driver for Asus AX800 AGP

When using FireFox it will freeze up xorg to the point where only SSH in and reboot works.

There is nothing in:
dmsg
/var/log/messages
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
/var/log/syslog

ctrl+alt+F1-F6 does nothing
ctrl+alt+backspace does nothing

The mouse pointer can be moved, but that's it.. everything else is frozen.

When SSH'ing in I can kill any process except X. Which is using 0% RAM and 99.9% CPU

I cannot kill -9 it
I cannot attach to it with strace (permisson denied even tho I SSH in as ROOT)

It always happen by user input.. when clicking the back button or using the scroll wheel. The freeze is always triggered by an mouse button input event.

Now I've googled this, and search on here, and seen alot of people have the same issue, regardless of hardware configuration. It's also present in UBUNTU and also is triggered by FireFox or related mozilla apps.

Today, nss and nprs packages where updated, and the crash started happening even faster than normal. There is no flash involved or other FF extensions.. Just pure default FC 6 install, fully updated.. Like all the others with the same problem.

Please advice.

[ambient1]

quick add about the driver.. It's the xorg ati opensource driver supplied by yum core packages I'm using, *NOT* a binary one!

[brunson]

When software that works for thousands of others doesn't work for you, especially in two different distributions, suspect the hardware.

[ambient1]

Originally Posted by brunson

When software that works for thousands of others doesn't work for you, especially in two different distributions, suspect the hardware.

Ah let me clear that up, I do not use UBUNTU, I said others that use it have reported the same issue. I noticed that when googling a few keywords.. I think I read it on their forum.. I'm pointing out I'm not the only one with this problem, and it seems to span all sorts of hardware and distributions, but end up at mozilla.

[brunson]

Ah, that wasn't clear. In that case, all I can say is "works for me".

[ambient1]

Originally Posted by brunson

Ah, that wasn't clear. In that case, all I can say is "works for me".

I've been a game developer for 4 years and the "it works for me" argument always ended up giving us "red ears" when we discovered we left in that odd deadlock in the code that would only trigger rarely.. I've learned thru experience to be humble about my code and keep an open mind when bugs are reported. The issue might be hardware or in some other package. The key here is keep an open mind.

Now I have something that might trigger it.

repeatedly load random pages that are longer than your screen and go nuts on the scroolwheel while the page is not even loaded yet.. click a link, and start abusing that mousewheel right away until the page is fully loaded.. keep trying and please try more than one page.. funny enough, sourceforge projects search results page is a good one for me.. I always get the crash on a few tries.. but alot of pages do it for me.

[ambient1]

just for reference, the thread I found on ubuntu.. pages of ppl with similar(?) problem:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313411

[JonC]

I have recently also been suffering X lockups. I cannot, however, SSH in and I don't use firefox. Still, these were not happening before the latest round of updates. There might be something in it.

[brunson]

keep trying and please try more than one page.. funny enough, sourceforge projects search results page is a good one for me..

Nope, can't reproduce, even on an insipid Pentium M 1.7Mhz laptop with 512MB of memory and about a dozen other applications running. I am, however, using the firefox-2.0.0.1-5.fc7 package from the development repo.

[ambient1]

Originally Posted by brunson

I am, however, using the firefox-2.0.0.1-5.fc7 package from the development repo.

With core 6? I'm desperate to try anything since I cannot get any work done without firefox. And since the upgrades yesterday it's as stable for me as a house of hay :/

[brunson]

Originally Posted by ambient1

With core 6? I'm desperate to try anything since I cannot get any work done without firefox. And since the upgrades yesterday it's as stable for me as a house of hay :/

Yeah, try this:

yum --enablerepo=development update firefox

[muskote33]

Originally Posted by ambient1

I'm using FC6, updated to 26 feb 2007 updates.

Default Gnome + metacity (no GL effects)

ATI driver for Asus AX800 AGP

When using FireFox it will freeze up xorg to the point where only SSH in and reboot works.

There is nothing in:
dmsg
/var/log/messages
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
/var/log/syslog

ctrl+alt+F1-F6 does nothing
ctrl+alt+backspace does nothing

The mouse pointer can be moved, but that's it.. everything else is frozen.

When SSH'ing in I can kill any process except X. Which is using 0% RAM and 99.9% CPU

I got the same prob here, the exact one... One diff is, that I doNOT use FF and X doesn't consume all of the CPU!!!!

My thread here is http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...092#post752092

Will follow both threads, cause it drives me crazy..... totally.....

Cheers

[ambient1]

Originally Posted by muskote33

Will follow both threads, cause it drives me crazy..... totally.....

I can relate, trust me..

Now I'm gonna boot to FC again and try FF2.. Does it happen for you on mouse input or any user input. Or at any given time? In case on input, what application triggers it?

[ambient1]

Originally Posted by ambient1

Now I'm gonna boot to FC again and try FF2..

Tried and failed.. I've uninstalled gnome and firefox and have resorted to Window Maker and Konqueror.. This is bad :/

[brunson]

Hmmmm... yeah, I'm going to have to change my original answer of "works for me" to "sucks to be you".

Have you tried disabling extensions in FF? Have you done anything odd to your system that may have replaced standard libraries?