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Old 20th June 2009, 01:53 AM
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I have an ATI HD3650. Last night a bunch of updates were installed on my system that were xorg and driver(s) related. I let the updates finish and then I shut down. This morning when
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Isn't radeonhd the opensource driver? Why is it autoloading the proprietary driver fglx? Or do I have it wrong? Also why is system-config-display suddenly broken?
If you have the fglrx driver in your xorg.conf file, then you must have installed it manually at some point. Did you upgrade to Fedora 11 from Fedora 10 which had fglrx already?

The radeon driver is the default. Radeonhd is an ALTERNATE driver that for various reasons is not the default. Feel free to try both to see which works better for you.

With Fedora 11, you can rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and then Xorg will authomagically pick the driver and settings that are the defaults for your card. For ATI cards, that will be the "radeon" driver.

Regarding the ATI proprietary drivers:
The fglrx driver is for ATI cards that are ATI 1000 series cards and below.
The catalyst driver is for ATI cards that are ATI 2000 series cards and above.
None of these proprietary drivers currently work with the Fedora 11 2.6.29 kernel.

For example, I have an ATI 4850 card and I installed using "Install with basic video" option. The default install had the screen sized off the screen so I couldn't see all the selection options. The basic video install worked. This set my driver as the "safe" VESA driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I renamed that /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa and then rebooted my system. After reboot, my system is using the auto detected "radeon" driver now. It is not perfect but it works for me for now. At some point, I will go with the ATI proprietary Catalyst driver once it supports the Fedora 11 2.6.29 kernel. Until then, I can live without the fancy cube affects for now. I'm not happy about it, but i'm ok with it.

Anyone know if the recent 9.6 Catalyst works with the 2.6.29 kernel?

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Old 20th June 2009, 05:38 AM
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Try installing a F10 kernel + devel and install the F10 akmod driver

Leigh123linux, does it ACTURALLY work in your F11? I have tried it with no result.

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Jun 20 11:29:31 fedora yum: Installed: kernel-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:31 fedora yum: Installed: kernel-devel-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:33 fedora yum: Installed: kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64-9.3-1.fc10.4.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:33 fedora yum: Installed: kmod-fglrx-9.3-1.fc10.4.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:46 fedora yum: Installed: xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-9.3-2.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:47 fedora yum: Installed: akmod-fglrx-9.3-1.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:49 fedora yum: Installed: xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs-9.3-2.fc10.x86_64
..
When I reboot system, i got a buntch of failed messages from auditd, system logger, rpcbind, RPC idmapd, system message bus, acpid, sendmail, sm-client, avahi-deamon. After that, it complained about prefdm error, than hanged out.
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Old 20th June 2009, 05:42 AM
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Is there really anyone who was able to get "fglrx" and F11 working together in any constellation? I really would looking forwards, if anyone could write down a small guide on how he managed it to work. I am now trying for weeks to get the "fglrx" running. Using the community patches all over again and I just tried to F10 kernel. I am really running out of ideas. It seems to work first and "glxinfo" even reports that direct rendering is available. However seconds (often during starting the DE) the whole pc freezes. Might be completly other problem relating to fglrx... so anyone did get it running with a more stable state than 20 seconds running? I have an 4850.
I'm wondering, too. Hoping somebody could post a detailed procedure if it really works.
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Old 20th June 2009, 07:30 AM
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Anyone know if the recent 9.6 Catalyst works with the 2.6.29 kernel?
No, it doesn't work. To compile it, you will need the community patches that causes several problems.

I really would say I am not a complete newbie and I often read that downgrading would work... and I even get the fglrx >9.4 compile and load to the system. However, the system freezes within seconds. I think that it might have something to do with the RTL nic (don't ask why, I am still hunting for evidences). The community patch should lead to system instability and a huge log file. However some people claim that they can even "live" with it. Also lot of people saying that downgrading to an 2.6.27 kernel seems to work for them. I would be happy, if anyone who get it running with one of this ways could exactly describes how he did it. I really would getting insane, if 9.7 is out, supports the new kernel, but the system still freezes cause of another problem

I also would looking forward, if anyone get the "radeon" with the experimental 3D running (i am really taking everything). Looks basically good, but somewhere the it prevents to load (the existing r600_dri.so). I really would kill for an DX7-Support on the system...)
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Old 20th June 2009, 05:53 PM
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Leigh123linux, does it ACTURALLY work in your F11? I have tried it with no result.

Code:
 
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Jun 20 11:29:31 fedora yum: Installed: kernel-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:31 fedora yum: Installed: kernel-devel-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:33 fedora yum: Installed: kmod-fglrx-2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.x86_64-9.3-1.fc10.4.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:33 fedora yum: Installed: kmod-fglrx-9.3-1.fc10.4.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:46 fedora yum: Installed: xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-9.3-2.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:47 fedora yum: Installed: akmod-fglrx-9.3-1.fc10.x86_64
Jun 20 11:30:49 fedora yum: Installed: xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs-9.3-2.fc10.x86_64
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When I reboot system, i got a buntch of failed messages from auditd, system logger, rpcbind, RPC idmapd, system message bus, acpid, sendmail, sm-client, avahi-deamon. After that, it complained about prefdm error, than hanged out.

I haven't got a ATI card , the F10 kernel works fine for me in F11.
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Old 20th June 2009, 06:04 PM
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Rpmfusion haven't released a driver yet so this guide won't work yet.


Howto for F11



Click this link to make sure your card is supported by this driver ( All ATI cards below the HD series are unsupported )


1. Update kernel


Code:
su
yum update kernel
reboot to the new kernel


2. Install driver

install the F11 rpmfusion driver


Code:
su -
rpm -Uvh 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
yum  install kmod-fglrx xorg-x11-drv-fglrx xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs.i386
Or (akmod builds the required kmod on bootup )


Code:
su -
rpm -Uvh 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-rawhide.noarch.rpm
yum  install akmod-fglrx xorg-x11-drv-fglrx xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs.i386
3. Backup Old initrd
Code:
su
mv /boot/initrd-`uname -r`.img /boot/initrd-`uname -r`.img.backup

4. Remake initrd for the kernel
(So the radeon module is not force loaded)

Code:
su -
mkinitrd -v /boot/initrd-`uname -r`.img  `uname -r`


5. Edit grub.conf


Code:
su
gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
and add this "nopat" to the kernel arguments.

i.e

Code:
splashimage=(hd3,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64)
    root (hd3,1)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64 ro root=UUID=f372564c-f1a7-430e-b97f-b250812e2c30 rhgb quiet vga=0x318 nopat
    initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.29.2-126.fc11.x86_64.img
Optional (in case libdrm change breaks things due to relationship with KMS):
add "nomodeset" to end of kernel arguments


6. Reboot

due to the akmod, it is *absolutely necessary* to reboot after the install, otherwise the kernel module won't be compiled.



7. Optional install compiz-fusion.


http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpo...05&postcount=1
ANY Idea as to when this will work or if there is a way to get ATI Drivers to work?
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Old 20th June 2009, 06:08 PM
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ANY Idea as to when this will work or if there is a way to get ATI Drivers to work?
I have no idea. By the time ATI supports 2.6.29 F11 would have moved onto 2.6.30
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Old 21st June 2009, 07:36 AM
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I haven't got a ATI card , the F10 kernel works fine for me in F11.
How did you get F10 kernel working on F11?
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Old 21st June 2009, 09:23 AM
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How did you get F10 kernel working on F11?
That's actually the easiest part. Go to koji, download a F10 kernel, install it with "rpm --oldpackage -ivh kernel*".

However ... I am reading lots of nice hints in the net. However, is here really ANYONE got the "fglrx" running under F11. I simply want to determinate, if this is an absolute no go ... or a possible bug in F11. I actually doesn't know why the fglrx should not work with a downgraded kernel.
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Old 21st June 2009, 10:43 AM
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ok, i have installed ati catalyst 9.6 in my F11, here is the link:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...94#post1230394
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Old 22nd June 2009, 03:38 AM
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I see they have 9.6 out. would they work?
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Old 30th June 2009, 06:15 PM
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Hi,
Just wanted to know whether there is a stable release of ATI HD 3450 drivers for f-11 ???... my graphics card is mentioned on the ati site.... also there is a download link for 'ATI Catalyst Display Driver' (released on 15/6/2009).... is it ok to download and install drivers from the ati site (instead of rpmfusion) ??
I have a perfectly fine system running on f-10......
Please suggest...
thanks
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Old 1st July 2009, 07:59 AM
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Hi,
Just wanted to know whether there is a stable release of ATI HD 3450 drivers for f-11 ???... my graphics card is mentioned on the ati site.... also there is a download link for 'ATI Catalyst Display Driver' (released on 15/6/2009).... is it ok to download and install drivers from the ati site (instead of rpmfusion) ??
I have a perfectly fine system running on f-10......
Please suggest...
thanks
favonius
No - we are on the same boat, and we are waiting for ATI to get its act together and support the new kernels

-t
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Old 2nd July 2009, 05:25 AM
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I haven't got a ATI card , the F10 kernel works fine for me in F11.
OOO!! excellent idea Leigh... what would be the cleanest method to write the 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10 Kernel into F11?!

i still have excellent ATI functionality with F10 as well... looking forward to that functionality in 11
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Old 2nd July 2009, 09:01 AM
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with these propitiatory ATI binaries, it sounds like a great idea to get an NVIDIA laptop next ü
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