fedora 8 - kino - atrpms

[bowens44]

My camcorder doesn't work with default firewire stack in Fedora 8 (or 7). So I have attempted to get it working by blacklisting firewire_core and firewire_ohci. I then enabled the atrpms repo and did a 'yum install ieee1394 ieee1394-kmdl-2.6.23.1-49.fc8.i686'.

lsmod | grep 1394:
video1394 17880 0 (I loaded this with modprobe, not sure ifs it needed)
raw1394 24312 0
dv1394 19032 0
ohci1394 29872 2 video1394,dv1394
ieee1394 75060 4 video1394,raw1394,dv1394,ohci1394

dmesg:
ieee1394: Current remote IRM is not 1394a-2000 compliant, resetting...
ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0000850000951bf5]
ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023
NOTE: The dv1394 driver is unsupported and may be removed in a future Linux release. Use raw1394 instead.
ieee1394: raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized


Kino still doesn't see the camera, neither does dvgrab. Kino tells me 'WARNING:raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/raw1394!'.
On the Prefrences/IEEE1394 it says The IEEE 1394 subsystem is not responding.

I have tried changing the permissions on /dev/raw1394 and I have tried running kino as root. Neither worked.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong or how I can get this working?

Thanks

[bowens44]

Has anyone here been able to get firewire working properly on fedora 8? I really could use some help with this.

[CrystalCowboy]

I'm just encountering similar things now. I have an application which required raw1394 and libdc1394, and I don't know what changes will be required to get it working again. I did find this: ieee1394 changes in Linux 2.6.22

From: Stefan Richter
Date: 2007-07-09 20:57:22
...
firewire-core:
This is a new driver, part of the new alternative FireWire driver
stack known under the nickname "Juju", written by Kristian Høgsberg.
Functionality-wise, firewire-core is a replacement for ieee1394,
raw1394, video1394, and dv1394.
...
At the moment, ported but as yet unreleased versions of libraw1394
and libdc1394 v2 are available via the following checkouts:
...

This might take some work.

[CrystalCowboy]

Re: JVC GR-D225E support

From: Stefan Richter
Date: 2007-06-25 16:26:14
...
Well, firewire_core is an *entirely* new thing. You are using a
2.6.22-rc kernel, right?

There is the old driver stack, consisting of ohci1394, pcilynx (which
you don't need), ieee1394, raw1394, dv1394 (which you need if you want
to use ffmpeg based programs or dvgrab 1.x), video1394 (which you don't
need), sbp2 (which you don't need), eth1394 (which you don't need).

Then there is the brand new driver stack, consisting of firewire-ohci
(replaces ohci1394), firewire-core (replaces ieee1394 + most of raw1394/
video1394/ dv1394), and firewire-sbp2 (replaces sbp2, which you don't
need). BTW, the new drivers are indeed called firewire-ohci,
firewire-core, firewire-sbp2. But whenever the kernel prints their
names, it prints firewire_ohci, firewire_core, firewire_sbp2 --- i.e.
underscores. There is also the nickname "Juju" for the new driver
stack, with varying use of uppercase and lowercase.

Caveats:

1. You can install and even load both the old and the new driver stack,
but only one of them will actually be active. Actually I don't really
know what happens if ohci1394 and firewire-ohci are loaded together.
Better take care that you only ever have either the old or the new
drivers loaded.

2. firewire-core does not implement /all/ features of raw1394 +
video1394 + dv1394 yet; there are still some features missing. But more
importantly, firewire-core is not binary compatible with the old
drivers. That means:

- Programs which use libraw1394 or libdc1394 (latter is for
industrial cameras and webcams, don't bother), need specially
patched and as-yet unreleased versions of these libraries:
libraw1394 from git://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/libraw1394
libdc1394 v2 from SVN,
https://libdc1394.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/libdc1394

- Programs which used dv1394 (there is no library on top of
dv1394) or directly accessed the drivers video1394 (without
libdc1394 in between) are out of luck with firewire-core.
firewire-core's character device files work differently from
dv1394's and video1394's character device files.
...

SO: rip out the new stuff wholesale and put in the old stuff, or else hunt around for a new raw1394 and libdc1394 that are compatible with the new stuff.

[CrystalCowboy]

I see this problem has been around for a while: Firewire issues in Fedora 7

[7.11brown]

How should I go about changing from new to old FW??

I would like to have it working by this weekend--I have a video project due next tuesday

[spblaguard]

I used the atrpms.net RPMs from the first post, but also grabbed libraw1394_8-1.3.0-3_11.fc8.i386.rpm as well. I had to use --nodeps to remove the default fedora RPM, but now my Sony Handycam works (first time since fc6).

[bowens44]

Originally Posted by spblaguard

I used the atrpms.net RPMs from the first post, but also grabbed libraw1394_8-1.3.0-3_11.fc8.i386.rpm as well. I had to use --nodeps to remove the default fedora RPM, but now my Sony Handycam works (first time since fc6).

Thank you for providing me with the missing piece!! Once I removed the default libraw1394 and installed this , everything worked!!

I was about to switch distros, I would have hated that. I really like fedora.

[7.11brown]

I have installed the various things from atrpms
the libraw1394 386 won't install
and i have the various others.
I am on x86_64

Kino can't load or find raw 1394 or something like that
it is running as root and it does see the camera

Dvgrab as root will start to play on the camera, but it stops in 5 sec

[spblaguard]

Hmmm... try "rpm -e --nodeps libraw1394" then install the atrpms version.

[7.11brown]

Now my camera is not recognized
Kino still complains about the libraw1394 module
dvgrab won't detect camera

both were installed as root

[spblaguard]

If you downloaded the packages manually, double-check to make sure you have the x86_64 versions. On x86 (IA32), I have these packages installed:

# rpm -qa --queryformat="%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} %{ARCH} from %{VENDOR}\n" | grep 1394
libavc1394-0.5.3-1.fc6 i386 from Red Hat, Inc.
libdc1394_20-2.0.0-9_rc7.fc8 i386 from ATrpms.net
ieee1394-2.6.23.1-4.fc8 i386 from ATrpms.net
libraw1394_8-1.3.0-3_11.fc8 i386 from ATrpms.net
ieee1394-kmdl-2.6.23.1-49.fc8-2.6.23.1-4.fc8 i686 from ATrpms.net

[7.11brown]

when I do
sudo rpm -qa --queryformat="%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} %{ARCH} from %{VENDOR}\n" | grep 1394

here is the result
libdc1394_control12-1.2.2-8.fc8 x86_64 from ATrpms.net
libraw1394_8-1.3.0-3_11.fc8 x86_64 from ATrpms.net
libavc1394-0.5.3-1.fc6 x86_64 from Red Hat, Inc.
ieee1394-kmdl-2.6.23.1-49.fc8-2.6.23.1-4.fc8 x86_64 from ATrpms.net
ieee1394-2.6.23.1-4.fc8 x86_64 from ATrpms.net
libdc1394-1.2.2-8.fc8 x86_64 from ATrpms.net

I am running fedora f8 x86_64 64 bit

kino even as root does not recognize the camera at all
it complains about /dev/raw1394

dvgrab as root does not see a camera
as regular user it can't use raw1394

Am I missing files, programs, configs?????????????

[spblaguard]

Some other packages of possible interest:

libiec61883-1.1.0-1.fc7 i386 from Red Hat, Inc.
libiec61883-utils-1.1.0-1.fc7 i386 from Red Hat, Inc.
kino-1.1.1-1.fc7 i386 from Freshrpms.net

Verify all of the kernel modules are loaded:
dv1394 19032 0
raw1394 24312 0
ohci1394 29872 1 dv1394
ieee1394 75060 3 dv1394,raw1394,ohci1394

Try "mv /root/.kinorc /root/.kinorc.bak" and run kino as root. If that still fails, it may be an issue with support for your camera. You may have seen this thread, too:
http://forum.fedoraforum.org/forum/s...d.php?t=158996

I'm not sure what else to say- the firewire changes have been frustrating.