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Old 30th May 2008, 01:33 AM
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Desktop Effects have strange consequences?

I never got the Nvidia stuff working while I was on Fedora 8, but I figured I'd give it another try now that I've upgraded to Fedora 9. I used the instructions found here: http://dnmouse.webs.com/nvidia.html

Okay - it seems to work, but there are some strange side-effects when I enable Desktop Effects:
-I've lost most of my Keyboard Shortcuts! I found that several of my custom key-combinations were removed from the Keyboard Shortcuts dialog. I re-added them, but several of them just don't work (though they have not re-disappeared from the configuration dialog).
-My Workspace Switcher now shows 4 workspaces. I had it configured to show only 2. I've discovered that the preferences dialog for that applet actually changes when desktop effects are enabled! (Why?) I lose the options to name my workspaces and to change the number of workspaces shown - [dead link] / [dead link]. The only rationale I could think of is that it is result of the "Workspaces on a cube" option, but unchecking this has no affect. Interestingly, if I disable Desktop effects and re-enable them, it will switch to showing only 2 workspaces (as I intend). But it switches back to 4 every time I login.
-My "Show Desktop" applet now shows the button in the down state (as If I am on the desktop) when I am not! If I press it once (now, while Firefox is the focus), it will raise all windows. I have to press it a second time to get to the desktop. When I click Firefox from the Window list, the button doesn't change state.
-I used to be able to easily align windows to the sides of the screen and to the sides of other windows. They would automatically "snap" to each other if brought close to each other. With Desktop effects enabled, this feature no longer works. (Why?)
-With Desktop effects enabled, I cannot drag messages to different folders in Thunderbird.
-With Desktop effects enabled, I cannot use my mouse wheel to scroll within a maximized window if my cursor is touching the left side of the screen (as it usually is in Firefox, since I tend to try to keep it out of the way when reading a page).
-Virtualbox's window behavior is somewhat unpredictable.
-Mozilla applications seem to cause a "scrambled" screen (momentarily) when initially started.

With the exception of that last point, I can see no reason why the Desktop effects should have these.... effects.

1) Can anyone confirm these side-effects?
2) Is this something specific to the Nvidia driver, maybe, or are they all result of Desktop effects itself? -> EDIT: I've determined that it is in fact the Desktop Effects, and I have updated this post accordingly
3) Is there an explanation for any of the above points?
4) Are there any fixes?

As much as I'd love to keep the nice shadows, fading, etc., it's just not worth it if there is no chance I can get normal functionality back

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Old 30th May 2008, 12:24 PM
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Hello,

I do not have answer to most of your questions, but here's what I think could be happening (assuming you're using Gnome)

The default "Window Manager" of Gnome is "Metacity" (Konquerer in KDE?), when you enable "Desktop Effects" you're switching away your default window manager to compiz, hence the changed behavior.

Although I haven't noticed the side-effects you mention, but on F8 when I enable compiz (Desktop Effects) I loose the ability to maximize a window by double clicking on the window's frame, although this behavior isn't noticed in F9.

So... the point I was trying to make was, since "Desktop Effects" run on a different window manager, expect "anomalous" behavior when compared to default.
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Old 31st May 2008, 01:52 AM
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I've found a wonderful compromise!

In gconf-editor:
apps->metacity->general ---> Check "compositing_manager"

This spruces up the desktop without causing all of the issues I described above, and is said to have less of a performance impact
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Old 31st May 2008, 08:10 AM
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In gconf-editor:
apps->metacity->general ---> Check "compositing_manager"
With this are you still able to do all the fancy stuff Compiz does?

How did you find this? Any documents/links available?
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Old 31st May 2008, 09:26 AM
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I'm not entirely sure about everything that each can do, so I'll list what I know...

Things Compiz Fusion does, Metacity doesn't:
-Window wobble
-Workspaces on a cube
-Fade-in menus

Things Metacity can do (and I believe Compiz Fusion also does):
-Shadows for windows, tooltips, menus, panels
-Transparency for panels, notifications, volume control popup graphic
-Minimizing window show animation of dark transparent rectangle shrinking to respective location in window list
-Prettier Alt-Tab, with previews
-Launchers on panels pop out at you and disappear

I found it through hard work and determination -- I just did a bunch of Googling. I didn't save any of the links. Go ahead and try it. It's easy (and instantaneous) to activate (and deactivate) and even works within virtual machines, apparently without need for special graphics drivers.
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Old 4th June 2008, 11:56 PM
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if u are in gnome have u installed the package gnome-compiz-manager ? if not install it . it made a difference with me though different problems
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Old 5th June 2008, 02:27 AM
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No, I hadn't. I just tried that, and it definitely addressed some of the issues I described, but overall, I'm happier with the native Gnome compositing.
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