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Old 25th July 2008, 04:21 AM
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Question Help finding ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 series driver?

Does anyone know where I can get a driver for this thing?
Desktop effects don't work properly, none of the resolution settings work.. and if i try turn on dual head, my resultion goes down to 640 by 480 and won't go back up.. (i couldn't figure it out, at least)

I couldn't find anything in search, other than a few other people asking the same question, so if anyone could help us out; it'd be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

I'm using FC9, BTW.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:12 AM
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Hello:

I don't think that your chipset is supported by the ATI proprietary driver, but you can have a look yourself: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

The open-source 'radeon' driver that comes with Fedora should automatically be used. Have you done anything to configure it?

Also, please post copies of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, so we can see what's going on with X11/Xorg.

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Old 28th July 2008, 03:25 PM
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Sorry it took so long to get back to you, but while i was out i found more issues. Often while booting up my screen gets chopped up and skips around kind of like if the tracking wasn't set proplery on a VCR, and none of my theme packs work properly, though i know they've installed. It just goes to a white screen, where if i hit the logout key on my keyboard, and close the apps, i can log out and log in again.
I have not configured the open source driver.

Here's my Xorg.conf
Code:
# Xorg configuration created by pyxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "Default Layout"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# keyboard added by rhpxl
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Videocard0"
	Driver      "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Videocard0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
	EndSubSection
EndSection
and here's my xorg.0.log..
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Old 28th July 2008, 09:59 PM
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Here's the problem:
Code:
(==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
(II) RADEON(0): XAA Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer. Please use EXA instead.
(II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled
(II) RADEON(0): RADEONEngineInit: num pipes is 2
(II) RADEON(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)

[...]

(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/swrast_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
So, tell it to use EXA. From 'man radeon':
Quote:
Option "AccelMethod" "string"
Chooses between available acceleration architectures. Valid options are XAA and EXA. XAA is the traditional acceleration
architecture and support for it is very stable. EXA is a newer acceleration architecture with better performance for the Ren-
der and Composite extensions, but the rendering code for it is newer and possibly unstable. The default is XAA.
So edit xorg.conf to add:
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Code:
Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Videocard0"
	Driver      "radeon"
        Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
EndSection
Install package driconf to get a GUI to play with other DRI settings. Run it as root user the first time. See these threads for more on Radeon and tweaking settings:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/...d.php?t=194959
http://forum.fedoraforum.org/forum/s...d.php?t=187984

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Old 28th July 2008, 11:40 PM
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the EXA accel method didn't seem to do anything, and when i run DRIconf, i got the message:

"Could not detect any configurable direct-rendering capable devices. DRIconf will be started in expert mode."

Don't have any idea what i'm doing here. heh
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Old 28th July 2008, 11:50 PM
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After booting up, i'm getting message: "Aperture beyond 4GB... Ignoring"

if that's relevant. I've never seen that before.
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Old 28th July 2008, 11:52 PM
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Yes, sorry, forgot: driconf is useless if DRI is not enabled - which it isn't right now on your machine.

Well, rather than repeat the entire gory process again (again), please have a look at those other threads and see what they did to get things sorted out (which they both did), try the suggestions that worked, see if they help. If, after all that, DRI is still not working, we can dig deeper into your setup. I know it's a lot of verbose reading, clutter, and banter to wade through, but the answers are hopefully there....

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EDIT: Ignore that message: it's spurious and harmless (I think...). Seen a few other threads mentioning it. You can search if you like, but I'm fairly sure that you can ignore it.
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Old 29th July 2008, 08:52 AM
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This card (Radeon Xpress 1100) works with proprietary driver. Consider using livna packages, though they require downgrading x-server if you are using F9.
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Old 31st July 2008, 01:47 AM
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Okay, i tried a few things.. i edited the xorg.conf to the one you suggested, with 16 bit, and it booted up fine. Then when i set it back to 32, and rebooted i got cannot display x server, and had to nano the xorg.conf back to 16 bit, even though 32 worked before...

I bet fglrx is installed and making something wacky... having issues removing it, but i'll figure it out...... somehow.
I tried to yum remove fglrx, and i'm getting a weird can't retrieve repository metadata error... probable temp file yum clean all, tried it again, it downloads a couple packages or something then gets the same error.
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Old 31st July 2008, 02:16 AM
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I am using livna packages... Downgrading x-server?
When i had FC8 on this machine a year ago, i was having the same problem. I got weird lines, duplicated things and everything went blurry whenever the machine went into, or out from standby, or use dual head.

Edit:

I've tried
akmod-fglrx-* (if installed)
kmod-fglrx-*
xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-*
livna-config-display
and they all get command not found.

I did try install fglrx, but i'm not sure if i've formatted and reinstalled since... i've done that a few times now.
sigh.

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Old 31st July 2008, 06:20 AM
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What a mess. Where to start?

Unless you are prepared to endure the process of downgrading the entire X11/Xorg Window System, I suggest that you remove all packages related to the 'fglrx' proprietary driver. As detailed in one of the other threads linked above, it can and will interfere with the other driver(s), without providing any benefit (unless you successfully downgrade X11/Xorg).

Assuming that you decide to remove the 'fglrx' stuff (and do so), you can then review the info on those other two threads to find out if anything there helps. If, after trying all of the things that worked for those two guys, you cannot get your problems resolved, we can look into your setup in more detail.

The items that you listed are package names (with wild-cards), not commands. That is the list of fglrx-related packages to remove.

Good Luck,
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Old 9th September 2008, 03:21 PM
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Hi folks!
I'm Jayme from Brazil and and I think I have the same problem of Max, my xorg.conf my video card is the same of hin, see that http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/crash.jpg but it's happening when I run a Network Manager at my work, I really dont' know why it's happen, anyone can explain this?
Sorry, my english is terrible.

I've a Acer Aspire 5100 - AMD Turion 1.6 - 1g Ram - 120MB HD - Webcam Bison.
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Old 9th September 2008, 04:01 PM
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Hi, jayme.

When I get home i'll link my xorg.conf file, and we'll see how that goes.

When do you get that? That only happened to me when I loaded compiz.. you get that display issue with you run network-manager???
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Old 9th September 2008, 04:25 PM
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Hello Max

Now I am connected without the network manager aplet and so far not done any crash, let see what happening in this case. I do not believe this! 8-0 And I've the same problem when install Network Manager Aplet in Fedora 8. :-(
When I try to able a simple desktop effects my screen turn out blank, but the system don't crash...
Have you install the Xpress 1100 on your laptop?

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Old 9th September 2008, 04:49 PM
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So just so I understand, you get the crash when you install network-manager?
I have installed fedora 8 and 9 probably 3 or 4 times on this model laptop (girlfriend has the same laptop) and I've never had that issue.

You could always try re-install. I'll be home in 12 hours, which is when I'll give you my xorg.conf... I bet that will work.

Can I see your xorg.conf?
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