Has anyone tried Openbox, LXDE, and Sugar?

Clean Mind · #1 22nd January 2009, 05:19 AM

Sugar looks like some kind of old fashioned computer games.
Openbox? I never tried Gnome(Openbox).
LXDE is the one I am trying out; very light indeed, but rather featureless, too.
(By the way, don't use Gnome exclusively; I believe every environment has its purpose.)

RupertPupkin · #2 22nd January 2009, 05:54 AM

Yes, no, and no.

I use WindowMaker.

aleph · #3 22nd January 2009, 07:03 AM

Openbox is LXDE's default window manager. I tried LXDE but gave up, because I'm don't like its keyboard bindings and I can't find a way to change them...

scottro · #4 22nd January 2009, 12:10 PM

LXDE runs on openbox but you can change it to flux or another WindowManager. Shucks, I forget the file name offhand.

Ah, here it is
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/default for LXDE and for LXDE lite it should be

/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/config

As for the keybindings, you change them, as a rule, in the openbox config. $HOME/.config/openbox/rc.xml

I have a page on it (I think we went through this before

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=20210

that gives some fluxbox keybindings and openbox equivalents.
http://home.roadrunner.com/~computer.../fluxopen.html

One can use flux with LXDE if they want (which I do when I've played with it--simply because the keybindings are so much easier to type in than they are in openbox.)

DigitalDuality · #5 25th January 2009, 01:57 AM

I use openbox (without Gnome) with tint for the panel, stalonetray for the system tray, along with conky.

I use a lot of cli apps. Gnu Screen for a terminal multiplexer, Mutt for accessing gmail, finch for IM, rtorrent for torrents, irssi for irc, vim for most of my text file editting. The only real "gui" apps i use is firefox with vimperator (vim keybinding plugin for FF) ,.. gnome-terminal, and rhythmbox..

RupertPupkin · #6 25th January 2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalDuality

Gnu Screen for a terminal multiplexer, Mutt for accessing gmail, finch for IM, rtorrent for torrents, irssi for irc, vim for most of my text file editting. The only real "gui" apps i use is firefox with vimperator (vim keybinding plugin for FF) ,.. gnome-terminal, and rhythmbox..

I don't use very many gui apps either. I use Alpine for mail, and Emacs for "word processing" (in LaTeX or groff) and text editing. Firefox and mrxvt are almost all I use that requires X.

scottro · #7 25th January 2009, 02:15 PM

My trouble with mrxvt is that it doesn't support unicode, which I need. Otherwise, it's a great terminal.

Edit: Ah, looks as if they're working on it.

http://www.mail-archive.com/materm-d.../msg00335.html

DigitalDuality · #8 25th January 2009, 11:12 PM

I'm actually surprised at the fact that absolutely no tiling window manager outside of ratpoison is in any of the standard repo's. I've been wanting to try out wmii for quite some time (tried awesomewm a while back and found it to be a pain.. maybe i need to give it a second run) but I can't get it to compile on F10.

scottro · #9 26th January 2009, 01:43 AM

Fluxbox tiles. I couldn't get awesome compiled on Fedora either. I tend to prefer, however the *box types, where I can make xterms and move them around the screen with keystrokes.

One thought (untested) with awesome, which I sometimes do with success (and other times with no luck.) I have a minimal Ubuntu install in VirtualBox. Often, you can download a program in Ubuntu, then run alien -r on the deb file and have it work. (And many times, it won't.) Might be worth a try though.

Now, I have to try it....hold on

Ok, that worked. I had to install (via yum ) libconfuse, but after that it worked as it should, more or less, though some of the default key bindings didn't work.

DigitalDuality · #10 26th January 2009, 01:59 AM

lol shame alien isn't in the repo's either. just got all the wmii debs needed from ubutnu.

RupertPupkin · #11 26th January 2009, 02:07 AM

I understand the rationale behind WMs that can tile, but for me it wouldn't work so well because I use a lot of GNUstep apps (with the detached menus that only appear when the app window has focus). Tiling assumes people are using the standard menu-is-part-of-the-app-window paradigm (which I think wastes a lot of screen space).

scottro · #12 26th January 2009, 02:24 AM

If you're running Ubuntu, (whether by itself or in VM) I find it easier to just install the package on Ubuntu rather than hunt down debs. (Of course, from what you say, I'd have to hunt down alien too.)

Then, I just scp the rpm over. In this case (with awesome) I did that, and it installed without error. However, when I did start X, it failed saying it couldn't find libconfuse. I was able to install libconfuse with yum, and then, after that, it started. As I said, some of the default keybindings didn't work, but I didn't really look into it.

(As said above, I tend to prefer being able to open up various xterms and just move them around with keystrokes. It works better for me, and I'm just very used to Fluxbox by now.)

DigitalDuality · #13 26th January 2009, 03:21 AM

Fluxbox to me just seems slow in terms of responsiveness when compared to Openbox. :\

*edited*

scottro · #14 26th January 2009, 03:51 AM

Hrrm, that looks like a bit of a typo.

DigitalDuality · #15 26th January 2009, 01:19 PM

fixed.......