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10th February 2009, 06:47 AM
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Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
From Distrowatch:
"...but one of the new features is sure to cause a stir. By default, the new version will disable the much loved Ctrl-Alt-Backspace key combination which kills the X server. While this appears to be an 'enhancement' from upstream based on usability studies, some users aren't happy with the decision. Recently openSUSE implemented a similar feature, which required the combination to be hit twice before it would activate. Perhaps Fedora could look into this instead, as a compromise to keep both camps happy."
Is this actually happening?  (please say 'no'...)
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10th February 2009, 07:15 AM
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Hi,
This is a upstream change noted in Fedora 11 Alpha release notes. You can still flip back the setting easily. There is a ongoing discussion in fedora-test list to collect more feedback.
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10th February 2009, 08:24 PM
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As far as I can tell, some Emacs users and people that rely on sticky keys, are not happy with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace being so close to key combinations that they use.
Surely, those users are in the minority and they should be forced to create and edit an xorg.conf file, not the other way around...
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10th February 2009, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by adrianx
Surely, those users are in the minority and they should be forced to create and edit an xorg.conf file, not the other way around... 
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I'd like to think so, but emacs is used more by developers, and, as I'm sure you know, one developer is worth at least 100 regular users ......
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Originally Posted by http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/emacs.html
Many developers and sysadmins do in fact spend practically all their time working inside Emacs, leaving it only to log out.
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10th February 2009, 08:48 PM
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Did someone say developers, developers, developers, de..... Okay, I won't go there.
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Last edited by adrianx; 10th February 2009 at 08:57 PM.
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10th February 2009, 09:07 PM
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10th February 2009, 10:36 PM
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We will shortly have a sticky up about this, dealing with the fact that there is no default xorg.
Rahul, if you see this, and know the answer, I'm curious as to why my added explanation, mentioning the fact that there was no xorg by default and explaining how to create it was removed from the release notes. It's no big deal, I'll put a sticky here instead, but I'm curious.
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12th February 2009, 07:50 AM
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Hi,
I don't see the changes in the wiki history. Not sure what happened
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