network is preventing fedora 11 boot

[FennCruz]

basically after the fedora loading bars on boot finish i get the following message:
r8169:eth0:link up
r8169:eth0:link up
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) wlan0 link is not ready

booting then just hangs

after looking round the two things i seemed to find to suggest what was happening was either a bug in the kernel or a problem with dual booting (it did only occur after i had booted vista) where windows was disabling the network card.

i tried using both kernels 2.6.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 and 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i586, but neither kernel boots so i cant update my computer if its a bug in the kernel

neither kernel works, it does boot/ load internet properly if i use a live cd, but thats not really an optimal solution

any help would be most appreciated

[stoat]

Hello FennCruz,

I would try disabling the network service. You can probably get it to boot in runlevel 3 to accomplish that. Disabling network might make booting smoother, and NetworkManager will start that service when it needs it later on. No promises, but it shouldn't harm anything to try.

[FennCruz]

well i could boot up into run level 3 via inittab, though the error message still appeared but this time a) over where i should of entered by login details b) didnt stop me logging in

I ran an yum update then switched back to run level 5 but i still have the problem

[digshake]

I have just run into this problem today as well. It happened right after I installed some security updates and rebooted my machine. I can't even get it to boot to command line, no matter what I try to do the computer hangs on this message:

ADDR_CONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready

Is there a way to disable network services on boot?

[FennCruz]

i guess if you can get a live cd (at least that works for me) there would be some way to edit the files but i'm a linux newb so dont know what to do

[digshake]

I managed to login finally and the first thing I tried was removing NetworkManager.

The good news: This made the previous error message go away.

The bad news: I now have an even more cryptic error message to deal with.

I'm trying to load different versions of the kernel now and may try the LiveCD as you suggested. I'll let you know if I figure anything out.

[digshake]

Turns out that the second error I got had to do with my xorg.conf and has nothing to do with this error. If you login as root and remove the network manager (yum remove NetworkManager) I'm betting that you'll be able to boot. The only problem is you will not be able to get on the internet.

Personally, after this whole debacle I'm looking into other ways of connecting to the internet besides network manager.

[stoat]

Originally Posted by digshake

If you login as root and remove the network manager (yum remove NetworkManager) I'm betting that you'll be able to boot.

Hello digshake,

Of course do what you want, but I recommend that neither of you do that. Disable the service maybe, but don't uninstall it. Uninstalling NetworkManager will almost surely drag out all kinds of things with it and bust stuff all over the place.

Until proven otherwise, I still think this has to do with the network service (not NetworkManager) trying to acquire an IP address during booting but before the wireless device is ready. If you can somehow get to a command prompt and disable the network service, it might help here. It's happened before.

If the system will not boot in runlevel 3, then try booting with the Fedora installation DVD in rescue mode and your system mounted at /mnt/sysimage. Then chroot to it and do the job.

chkconfig network off

It shouldn't make matters any worse, and it's easily reversible.

[FennCruz]

well edited the inittab into run level 3 and did chkconfig network off and rebooted into runlevel 5, part of the error message is gone but still left with:
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) wlan0 link is not ready,

so the message about the ethernet has gone, but wireless error message is still there, is there another service i could disable for wireless?

[stoat]

Originally Posted by FennCruz

...is there another service i could disable for wireless?

Well, not that I know about.

I started re-reading at the first post. You said this...

Originally Posted by FennCruz

after looking round the two things i seemed to find to suggest what was happening was either a bug in the kernel or a problem with dual booting (it did only occur after i had booted vista) where windows was disabling the network card.

That is not unheard of. What happens if you power down the computer and then power back up into Fedora without having booted Vista? Often that helps. If it does, I've heard that behavior in Windows (disabling the wireless card) can be disabled.

P.S.: In the network adapter properties in the Windows XP Device Manager, there is a place to uncheck for Windows to turn off the wireless device. Maybe that is what people are talking about, and maybe it's the same in Vista. It's checked for my adapter, but I never have this issue. Maybe my old Linksys card can't be turned off.

[digshake]

Thanks for your reply stoat. You're right about simply disabling the Network Manager as opposed to uninstalling it. If I was being logical and rational at the time then that's probably what I would've done. I was kinda ticked off however, so the first thing that came to my mind was removing it completely.

Luckily I haven't noticed any ill effects from doing this, though it was kind of a hassle to get wicd up and running with no internet connection. Fortunately I figured it out and everything on my end seems to be running smoothly. Thanks for your helpful suggestions.

FennCruz, I wish I could help you but unfortunately all I can do is wish you luck in figuring out your problem. stoat will likely give you better advice than me anyway!

[FennCruz]

well turning off and booting into fedora doesnt help

in windows vista (which is really hard to find what you want)
the closest thing i found was "shutdown wake on lan" origanlly set to enabled -> gives error msgs, setting to disabled still gives error message

[FennCruz]

well i found the solution it was either the software update (which updated nvidia and xorg) or assigning a static ip address through my router

[gnarbreh]

hey this is my first post ever.

I'm having the same problem and i discovered that you can login without starting X at the point where the boot hangs by pressing ctrl+alt+(F2-F6). For each number following the F on the key that you pressed a set of parentheses is onscreen (tty(x)) where (x) changes according the corresponding number on the F key. I'm not sure the significance of the parentheses anybody know?

also if it helps you can edit your xorg.conf by using nano in the terminal.

well there is my 2cents.

anybody have an idea what my xorg.conf should look like to boot properly?
pardon my newbness but im assuming these errors are related to my xorg.conf since it was the only major changes i have made since a fresh install. thanks for any help in advance.
(fedora 11)

[waterpot]

I think that does not make sense to discuss this issue, network card already needs, no need to disable the