DVI output lost upgrading from fc9 to 13

[Ron77]

I've just upgraded from fc9 to fc13 on an Acer Veriton L460. Under fc9, I connected the monitor via the digital interface (allowing the analog monitor input to be connected to a "headless" old fc5 box I can't quite retire yet).

When booting the fc13 distro DVD, the display when black shortly after the boot started. Changing to the analog o/p of the PC restored the display allowing fc13 to be installed (obviously replacing fc9). Sadly, booting the new install is the same: no DVI output; I have to use analog.

xrandr shows:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA1 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 376mm x 301mm
   1280x1024      60.0 +   75.0* 
   1152x864       75.0  
   1024x768       75.1     70.1     60.0  
   832x624        74.6  
   800x600        72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2  
   640x480        72.8     75.0     66.7     60.0  
   720x400        70.1  
DVI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

Ok, DVI1 is "disconnected"--which I sorta guessed (presumably it was not under fc9)

lspci says:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GH (ICH7DH) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller

I'm not exactly ignorant in system administration, but I'm not sure where to start looking in this case. The problem seems to be that support for DVI output on my hardware has disappeared between fc9 and 13. Any clues regarding how to enable this most appreciated!

[JEO]

If you are running the desktop (gnome) version, try going to system, preferences, monitors. You should be able to enable the DVI and disable the VGA there.

[Ron77]

If you are running the desktop (gnome) version, try going to system, preferences, monitors. You should be able to enable the DVI and disable the VGA there.

Good thought, but all that provides is resolution, refresh rate, and rotation.

[Ron77]

Additional information:

There is no xorg.conf file!

The Xorg.0.log file indicates that devices have been added by probing:

[    19.167] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[    19.271] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[    19.271] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[    19.271] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[    19.271] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[    19.272] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
        Using a default monitor configuration.
[    19.272] (==) Automatically adding devices
[    19.272] (==) Automatically enabling devices

...

[    19.437] (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
        "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[    19.437] (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[    19.437] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888
[    19.437] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[    19.437] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) G33
[    19.437] (--) intel(0): Chipset: "G33"
[    19.437] (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe
[    19.754] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section
[    19.831] (II) intel(0): Output DVI1 has no monitor section

...

[    20.030] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 connected
[    20.030] (II) intel(0): Output DVI1 disconnected

Xorg -configure (run as root) is supposed to write the conf file based on what was probed/detected, but says "Fatal server error: Server already active for display 0..."
I'm tempted to reinstall fc9 (on another box as it took a week to get this one setup fully) just to see what it had in xorg.conf that enabled DVI.

[JEO]

You have to run Xorg -configure from runlevel 3 (text). If you are in runlevel 5 (graphical) you will get that error.

[Ron77]

Figured that. The xorg.conf generated by --configure does not seem to have anything that will help (in Device Options, below). I'm assuming the monitor EDID says it is DVI capable as the DVI-D used to work under fc9.

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ColorKey"           	# <i>
        #Option     "CacheLines"         	# <i>
        #Option     "Dac6Bit"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "DRI"                	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoDDC"              	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShowCache"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "XvMCSurfaces"       	# <i>
        #Option     "PageFlip"           	# [<bool>]
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "intel"
	VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
	BoardName   "82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller"
	BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

The driver is xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-5.fc13.i686

[JEO]

How about manually enabling the output such as

xrandr --addmode DVI1 800x600
xrandr --output DVI1 --mode 800x600

---------- Post added at 10:43 AM CDT ---------- Previous post was at 01:22 AM CDT ----------

I found some information in the nouveau driver wiki about how to select an output using the video= kernel command line option in /boot/grub/grub.conf. I am not sure if it will work the same for the intel driver or not. You might try it out also to force the DVI on. See the section near the end about forcing modes.

http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting

[Ron77]

Tried the xrandr commands as suggested (using a higher res). Got a screen flash as the new mode was added, but the output did not make the DVI come alive (note xrandr still says DVI1 is disconnected, theough the new mode is shown):

VGA1 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 376mm x 301mm
   1280x1024      60.0 +   75.0* 
   1152x864       75.0  
   1024x768       75.1     70.1     60.0  
   832x624        74.6  
   800x600        72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2  
   640x480        72.8     75.0     66.7     60.0  
   720x400        70.1  
DVI1 disconnected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
   1280x1024    60.0*

Starting to suspect that the 1.8 intel driver is not as featured sa the earlier one, but will look into the link you mention. Might even try a post on the xorg forums, though they seem not so well organized.

[Chilly Willy]

Why is that it SEEMS that the further we go along into the "latest & greatest", the more crippled or the lack of control therein things become?

[Ron77]

Can't disagree. I've just pulled down the src rpm's for the intel driver for fc13 and fc9. Looks to me like the fc13 driver just does not support DVI (there are several extra src files containing "DVI" in the fc9 tree). Looked thru the release docs, but could not find anything about it. The man page for the drivers is not much help either, except some notes implying that the startup probe will find all usable outputs, which the fc9 driver did!