Trouble installing new Nautilus Elementary i686 RPM

[pampero]

Just came across these on a google search, made available three days ago.

http://mohamadzali.com/nautilus-elem...dora-packages/

More screens: http://mohamadzali.com/nautilus-elem...-in-fedora-13/

Obviously I got stuck at the first hurdle --

Setting up Install Process
Examining nautilus-2.30.1-3.fc13.i686.rpm: nautilus-2.30.1-3.fc13.i686
nautilus-2.30.1-3.fc13.i686.rpm: does not update installed package.
Error: Nothing to do

[sonoran]

Looking at my yum.log I find that the latest version of nautilus is 2.30.1-4.fc13.x86_64, installed on July 31. So your nautilus-2.30.1-3.fc13.i686.rpm would indeed not be an update. You could force yum to install it - read man yum.

But there are other problems - an update to normal Nautilus would wipe out your nautilus-elementary, so you would have to take care not to update nautilus in the future.

Also, I think anyone who packages a patched version ought to name it something else. Why is your rpm not called "nautilus-elementary"? Does the person who made the package know what he is doing? Do you trust him? Is he going to keep on providing updated patched versions to keep up with regular nautilus development?

I don't know what differences there are between fedora's nautilus and ubuntu's version, but it's another potential problem area.

Nautilus is a significant part of gnome (just try un-installing it). I would be very careful replacing nautilus with a patched version. There are other file managers available for fedora - I use pcmanfm and never open nautilus.

[mightymouse2045]

Hi Buddy,

What have you done to get rid of Nautilus completely?

I have followed the following:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=692238

With some obvious changes to file names - so now my Places and desktop icons open pcmanfm by default instead of Nautilus - however the step to backup /usr/bin/nautilus and replace it with a link to pcmanfm has some strange effects on login....

ie a copy of pcmanfm opens up at login and that slows down processing of the startup applications until it is closed. I want to basically use pcmanfm for everything including the wallpaper and desktop icons which it supports. This speeds up login times and also stops nautilus loading at all and hence saves memory.


Have you managed to get around this?

[sonoran]

Reading the nautilus man page, notice it has an option -n which means --no-default-window. If you run nautilus -n in a terminal, no window is opened. This would explain pcmanfm appearing during your login. Pcmanfm does not have such an option that I could find.

From that ubuntu thread, did you try this: in gconf editor (Applications/System Tools/Configuration Editor), under desktop/gnome/session/required_components/filemanager, replace nautilus with pcmanfm. Or, maybe just delete nautilus there.

Gnome is a nest of vipers. Since fedora and gnome are about to abandon me in fedora 15 (I don't have 3D support for their gnome shell) I have beaten them to the punch and done a minimal fedora 14 install using openbox instead of gnome. Good riddance.

[mightymouse2045]

Ummm follow these steps

1. Build latest pcmanfm from the GIT repository - Follow this page and take not of the build requirements for FEDORA http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide

(The default package in fedora 14 has a bug that doesn't allow multiple instances, hence the need to build your own as per the above link. It's a bit of a pain but only needs to be done once)

Test you can run pcmanfm

2. To replace pcmanfm for gnome places you may need to edit these files

/usr/share/applications/gnome-nautilus-computer.desktop
/usr/share/applications/gnome-nautilus-folder-handler.desktop

Replace nautilus with pcmanfm. Also in gnome-nautilus-computer.desktop remove computer: from the exec= line because it's not support by pcmanfm and I'm not sure how to get it to default to computer:/// from the command line

3. Install gconf-editor package and go to apps - nautilus - preferences and unselect show desktop

4. Create a startup application and have it run pcmanfm --desktop

5. reboot and test

5. Uninstall nautilus with yum erase nautilus

This will provide almost instant login times, and remove the bug for nautilus taking 1000 minutes (long time) loading folders in list view

[Dan]

MIghtyMouse2045, your posting got caught in the anti-spam filter and was moderated. I've deleted the last one. Please continue.

[mightymouse2045]

Thanks Dan