RPMDB altered outside of yum

[noobusinglinux]

hi guys
lately when updateing my computer ive been seeng this error msg
i dont know what it means but i think its bad

[root@Robert robertONLY]# yum update evince 
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit, remove-with-
              : leaves
Found 82 installed debuginfo package(s)
Enabling rpmfusion-free-debuginfo: RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Debug
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: evince = 2.30.3-1.fc13 for package: evince-nautilus-2.30.3-1.fc13.i686
---> Package evince.i686 0:2.30.3-2.fc13 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: evince-libs = 2.30.3-2.fc13 for package: evince-2.30.3-2.fc13.i686
--> Running transaction check
---> Package evince-libs.i686 0:2.30.3-2.fc13 set to be updated
---> Package evince-nautilus.i686 0:2.30.3-2.fc13 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package                Arch        Version                Repository      Size
================================================================================
Updating:
 evince                 i686        2.30.3-2.fc13          updates        979 k
Updating for dependencies:
 evince-libs            i686        2.30.3-2.fc13          updates        173 k
 evince-nautilus        i686        2.30.3-2.fc13          updates         24 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Upgrade       3 Package(s)

Total size: 1.1 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

does anyone know what RPMDB altered outside of yum means?
is it bad ?

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by noobusinglinux

hi guys
lately when updateing my computer ive been seeng this error msg
i dont know what it means but i think its bad

[root@Robert robertONLY]# yum update evince 
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, presto, refresh-packagekit, remove-with-
              : leaves
Found 82 installed debuginfo package(s)
Enabling rpmfusion-free-debuginfo: RPM Fusion for Fedora 13 - Free - Debug
Setting up Update Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: evince = 2.30.3-1.fc13 for package: evince-nautilus-2.30.3-1.fc13.i686
---> Package evince.i686 0:2.30.3-2.fc13 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: evince-libs = 2.30.3-2.fc13 for package: evince-2.30.3-2.fc13.i686
--> Running transaction check
---> Package evince-libs.i686 0:2.30.3-2.fc13 set to be updated
---> Package evince-nautilus.i686 0:2.30.3-2.fc13 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================================================
 Package                Arch        Version                Repository      Size
================================================================================
Updating:
 evince                 i686        2.30.3-2.fc13          updates        979 k
Updating for dependencies:
 evince-libs            i686        2.30.3-2.fc13          updates        173 k
 evince-nautilus        i686        2.30.3-2.fc13          updates         24 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Upgrade       3 Package(s)

Total size: 1.1 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Warning: RPMDB altered outside of yum.

does anyone know what RPMDB altered outside of yum means?
is it bad ?

It means you used rpm to install or remove something, it is safe to ignore.

[noobusinglinux]

but im not currently using an rpm
or is this warning gonna show up every time

here's an answer to the question http://illiterat.livejournal.com/7834.html http://www.google.com.au/search?q=RP...ient=firefox-a

[leigh123linux]

Originally Posted by noobusinglinux

but im not currently using an rpm
or is this warning gonna show up every time

You did at sometime.


try

su
yum clean all

this should clear it

[AlbertP]

It isn't a real problem - Yum works correctly as it is Warning not Error. It should appear one time you run Yum and then be gone. Don't worry, I have also got this message when running a yum install, but the install went OK.

[Mariusz W]

Originally Posted by noobusinglinux

but im not currently using an rpm
or is this warning gonna show up every time

Originally Posted by leigh123linux

You did at sometime.

noobusinglinux may be right. Nowadays I install everything using yum, including isolated RPMs outside of selected repos (and even those I do very rarely as there is no need really), yet I get from time to time such warnings. I can think of abrt being a culprit, since I have been persistent in filing through abrt bug reports, despite my reservations about hundreds-of-megabytes of debuginfos downloaded to my computer by abrt most times I decide to file a bug report.

Could it be that the warning issued by yum is caused by debuginfo downloading activities of abrt ?

[DBelton]

you are probably getting that message because you have packagekit running.

it wouldn't be abrt. As far as I know, abrt doesn't touch the rpm database.

But packagekit does run by default on a fresh install, and unless you have disabled it it's probably running on your system. And packagekit does alter the rpm database.

(other programs that probably update the rpm database is if you have the akmods package installed to build kernel modules for you.)

[AlbertP]

There has been an update to the RPMFusion repository some days ago - it seems that this is causing the warning. Again, nothing to worry.

[DBelton]

just an update to the rpmfusion repo will not cause yum to give that warning, unless you are using akmod to update your kernel modules.

other updates to your rpm database would be done through yum, no matter when or how the rpmfusion repo is updated. (unless you have packagekit running, or used rpm)

[Mariusz W]

Originally Posted by DBelton

you are probably getting that message because you have packagekit running.

it wouldn't be abrt. As far as I know, abrt doesn't touch the rpm database.

But packagekit does run by default on a fresh install, and unless you have disabled it it's probably running on your system. And packagekit does alter the rpm database.

(other programs that probably update the rpm database is if you have the akmods package installed to build kernel modules for you.)

Yes, that's the case. On my laptop.

And on my netbook packagekit indeed is running by default, even though I use it exclusively passively: i.e., I allow it to install whatever it wants to install when it pops up with a "security alert" window.

I thought that packagekit was a modern version of a GUI front-end to yum, at least its activities should not make yum complaining.

In any case, those warnings didn't bother me since I knew what I was doing.

[RahulSundaram]

Hi

PackageKit does use yum and shouldn't cause any such warnings since it is not altering the RPM Db directly.

[noobusinglinux]

Originally Posted by Mariusz W

noobusinglinux may be right. Nowadays I install everything using yum, including isolated RPMs outside of selected repos (and even those I do very rarely as there is no need really), yet I get from time to time such warnings. I can think of abrt being a culprit, since I have been persistent in filing through abrt bug reports, despite my reservations about hundreds-of-megabytes of debuginfos downloaded to my computer by abrt most times I decide to file a bug report.

Could it be that the warning issued by yum is caused by debuginfo downloading activities of abrt ?

that makes some sense i imagine abrt doesn't use yum as it is an error reporting app and wouldn't work if something was wrong with yum