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Old 7th September 2011, 05:33 PM
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Exclamation F16 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Hi, I have a Sony Vaio VGN-NS21Z running Fedora 15 KDE and I just can't make the touchpad work.

I've tried googling so many times and I'm tired so I came here to get some help.

I've used the command "cat /proc/bus/input/defreeuservices" and it doesn't display the touchpad so it is not being recognized I guess.

I've tried adding a touchpad manually at xorg.conf, adding the "i8042.nopnp" to the boot line and nothing works.

Any suggestions?

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Old 12th September 2011, 03:13 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Install xorg-x11-apps. Then run xinput list from terminal to see how your touchpad is seen.
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Old 12th September 2011, 08:24 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Thank you!! Here it is, I think is Virtual core XTEST pointer, what should I do next?
Code:
⎡ Virtual core pointer                          id=2    [master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse 500       id=10   [slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                         id=3    [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard               id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sony Vaio Keys                            id=6    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                                 id=7    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                              id=8    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ UVC Camera (05ca:18b3)                    id=9    [slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard              id=11   [slave  keyboard (3)]
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Old 13th September 2011, 02:08 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

I am also interested in getting this to work
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Old 18th September 2011, 08:33 PM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

I really need help over this, please.
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Old 20th September 2011, 01:25 PM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

I've been offline for several days.

I post below to show you what I have on my ThinkPad. It appears to me that your touchpad is not being seen. I assume you are using the optical mouse. If you can boot Windows, try and see how the touchpad is seen in Device Manager, then Google the PCI/VEN number and linux to find possible solutions. It could be that you need a newer or different kernel since these drivers are usually in the kernel these days.

Code:
$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint                   	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=11	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=6	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                               	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button                            	id=8	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Integrated Camera                       	id=9	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard            	id=10	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ ThinkPad Extra Buttons                  	id=13	[slave  keyboard (3)]
Here is another way to look for your TouchPad. Note that the term TouchPad is case sensitive.
Code:
$ dmesg | grep TouchPad
[    1.901218] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4
See if there is anything useful in var/log/Xorg.O.log.
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Old 21st September 2011, 01:38 PM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Thanks for your answer.

I've tried to install the synaptics drivers at my windows 7 partition which I rarely use to enable the touchpad and it broke the partition (can't log in). I'll try to fix it and then I'll tell you what I've found out.

I'll be gone a few days so when I return I'll tell you more.

PD: The " $ dmesg | grep TouchPad " command shows nothing as expected so it just doesn't recognize the touchpad.
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Old 27th September 2011, 09:47 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

OK. I'm back and I've solved the Win7 issue. I've been looking into the touchpad details and this is what I've found.

In the touchpad details at the "Primary" section it says:

Code:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2919&SUBSYS_9045104D&REV_03\3&11583659&0&F8
and at the "Device access path" section:

Code:
ACPI\SNY9008\4&3290F976&0
I'm searching but I don't find anything since I don't know what those info means nor what to look for.

Thanks for helping.
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Old 27th September 2011, 10:22 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Hello TheUser

I don't know if David will come back with any more help, but in the mean time I've been looking on the internet for any information about your problem.

There don't seem many references to your particular model of Laptop in conjunction with the word Linux in a Google search. The references I can find mention problems with the DVD drive, but not the touchpad. That was in 2009 with Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04.

If Device Manager in Windows doesn't give any clues as to the identity of your device it might be worth trying to locate a live CD from that time and see what it recognises the pad as.

Though I'm not sure just what can be done even if we can give it a name.
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Old 27th September 2011, 10:28 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

OK. I'll try to run a ubuntu live from that date.

It's true that the DVD drive has some problems. But I think those problems are hardware ones. When I bought this laptop the DVD drive worked properly but about a year ago it just broke, it doesn't write or read well even in windows so I suppose is a hardware problem. Nothing you can regrettably help.

Thanks for the help, this is a very helpful community!
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Old 27th September 2011, 10:57 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Hello TheUser,

I'm basing what I said on quite slim evidence from this thread on the Ubuntu forum:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ux/+bug/305724

post 10, which is of course DVD related. It might even be worth trying a more recent Ubuntu.

I don't see anyone else talking about particular problems with the pad, but of course it could be just being treated as a mouse there.

I'm not sure just where we would go if that was the case.
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Old 27th September 2011, 12:22 PM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Here I am at ubuntu 9.04 live usb.

The touchpad doesn't work here it is the xinput list

Code:
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo xinput list
"Virtual core pointer"	id=0	[XPointer]
	Num_buttons is 32
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 0
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 0
"Virtual core keyboard"	id=1	[XKeyboard]
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Sony Vaio Keys"	id=2	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"	id=3	[XExtensionKeyboard]
	Num_keys is 248
	Min_keycode is 8
	Max_keycode is 255
"Macintosh mouse button emulation"	id=4	[XExtensionPointer]
	Num_buttons is 32
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
"Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse 500"	id=5	[XExtensionPointer]
	Num_buttons is 32
	Num_axes is 2
	Mode is Relative
	Motion_buffer is 256
	Axis 0 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
	Axis 1 :
		Min_value is -1
		Max_value is -1
		Resolution is 1
Using "dmesg" doesn't show the touchpad also.

---------- Post added at 11:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:59 AM ----------

Now I'm at the lastest Ubuntu release. The touchpad doesn't work again, the xinput list is the same as the one at fedora 15 and this is the complete dmesg.

--> Link to pastebin because it doesnt fit the post.

And here is the xinput list

Code:
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse 500     	id=10	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sony Vaio Keys                          	id=6	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                               	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=8	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ UVC Camera (05ca:18b3)                  	id=9	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard            	id=11	[slave  keyboard (3)]
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Old 27th September 2011, 03:05 PM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Hello TheUser,

I'm not sure I can be of any more help to you.

I've looked up this output of yours on the internet:

Quote:
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2919&SUBSYS_9045104D&REV_03\3&115 83659&0&F8
and the most sensible reference I get is here:

The interesting output is here:

Quote:
Name: Intel(R) ICH9M LPC Interface Controller - 2919
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2919&SUBSYS_9045104D&REV_03\3&115 83659&0&F8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 04:23:01, 16440 bytes
Searching on the driver file:

Code:
msisadrv.sys
suggests that it is a Microsoft ISA driver - if you go back that far.

As I said though, even identifying the pad doesn't tell us why Linux doesn't recognise it - unless of course the pad is connected to a legacy ISA bus.

I wonder if anyone else is reading this who can comment if Fedora or Linux supports the ISA bus? I seemed to remember reading not somewhere.

Have you thought of looking for a Sony forum and asking questions about the touchpad there?
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Old 28th September 2011, 06:08 AM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheUser View Post
OK. I'm back and I've solved the Win7 issue. I've been looking into the touchpad details and this is what I've found.

In the touchpad details at the "Primary" section it says:

Code:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2919&SUBSYS_9045104D&REV_03\3&11583659&0&F8
and at the "Device access path" section:

Code:
ACPI\SNY9008\4&3290F976&0
I'm searching but I don't find anything since I don't know what those info means nor what to look for.

Thanks for helping.
The vendor number above is 8086 which is Intel. The device number is 2919. This appears to be an ISA bridge (looking at the first link below). I don't think you are looking at the device for the touchpad.

http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Samsung_...a_T5750_Dajuan

http://www.pcidatabase.com/

(I'll be away from the internet until Thursday evening.)
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Old 28th September 2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: F15 Touchpad not recognized Sony Vaio

Maybe the tab primary shows something else but the data I'm providing from Windows 7 is from a device detected as a PS/2 compatible mouse. The other mouse is the optical one which I use at linux.

When I clic at controller details it shows two files.

Quote:
C:/Windows/system32/DRIVERS/i8042.prt.sys
C:/Windows/system32/DRIVERS/mouclass.sys
And at details there are more tabs. I'll paste here which I see more relevant.
NOTE: Titles are translated by me so may do not match with the Windows7 English version ones.
  • Hardware ID:
    Code:
    ACPI\SNY9008
    *SNY9008
  • Compatible ID
    *PNP0F13
  • Service
    i8042prt
  • Name of device physic objet
    \Device\0000005d
  • Access path to the instance of the device
    ACPI\SNY9008\4&3290F976&0
  • Primary
    PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2919&SUBSYS_9045104D&REV_03\3&115 83659&0&F8
  • Brothers
    Code:
    ACPI\PNP0200\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\INT0800\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0103\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0000\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0C04\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0C02\2
    ACPI\PNP0B00\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0100\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0303\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\PNP0C09\4&3290f976&0
    ACPI\SNY5001\4&3290f976&0
  • Node secure name of the controller
    msmouse.inf:MSMfg.NTamd64:PS2_Inst:6.1.7600.16385: *pnp0f13
  • Id of the matching device
    *pnp0f13

Thanks for helping.
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