F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone! - Page 4

creataphysics · #46 9th December 2011, 02:54 AM

I asked if there was any way to fix it and if there was a list of devices that weren't going to be supported. So I have no idea why you're giving me a link to that page since it doesn't answer any of my questions.

What was added to the wiki page that was not there before was the Documentation / Release notes, they now state this:

The standard Gnome 3 experience is now available on all hardware. Fallback mode (may or may not) be enabled using the "Force Fallback" tristate in the System Info control panel.

Since this has been added, my standard experience is no longer available. So I'm assuming my device was overlooked or not supported, which is why I'm not asking these questions.

snoze · #47 9th December 2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chrismurphy

75% of the market is iOS. The rest is Android. Nothing else is a factor.

http://vator.tv/news/2011-09-22-appl...t-still-on-top

gnome shell for everyone! Hope for people who love to surf only.

Try to open a gnome shell and open some file using vi editor. Scroll down and then try to go up.. In my case I don't know which line I am! It is so bad that i have to use silly gedit windows. I am hardcore vi edit fan and it work superb in kde/F16.

**AdamW** · #48 14th December 2011, 09:40 PM

snoze: that doesn't sound like it has anything to do with Shell. if anything, gnome-terminal, which has barely changed between GNOME 2 and GNOME 3.

**AdamW** · #49 14th December 2011, 09:42 PM

creataphysics: if you disable acceleration for the adapter via xorg.conf, it should then try and render the Shell using software GL. Not sure what the result will be, but give it a shot.

creataphysics · #50 19th December 2011, 03:11 AM

I only have a folder called xogr.conf.d, I don't seem to have an actual xorg.conf file. so how else would i go about this?

weitjong · #51 2nd January 2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by arowana

Trying to figure out if running Gnome Shell software rendering is already possible in Rawhide and maybe change the repositories from f16 (with Gnome fallback mode) to f17...

Had anyone success getting Rawhide somehow running like it is described here? saw at fedoraprojects features page, here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Featu...ware_rendering , the percentage of completion for software rendering is stated to be 10%, whatever that means.

Yes, I have successfully experienced that. I just upgraded a test virtual machine from F16 x86_64 to rawhide. The gnome-shell works in software rendering mode in rawhide as described in the feature page. The response is acceptable smooth. Previously the gnome-shell can only run in fallback mode in my F16 KVM/qemu image. Thanks to the performance improvement in Gallium3D LLVMpipe. BTW, my host is an intel i7 and I dedicated one "core" (out of 8 "cores" available, seeing double due to hyperthreading) with 1024 MB. I did not use two cores as suggested by Phoronix.

arowana · #52 2nd January 2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by weitjong

Yes, I have successfully experienced that. I just upgraded a test virtual machine from F16 x86_64 to rawhide. The gnome-shell works in software rendering mode in rawhide as described in the feature page. The response is acceptable smooth. Previously the gnome-shell can only run in fallback mode in my F16 KVM/qemu image. Thanks to the performance improvement in Gallium3D LLVMpipe. BTW, my host is an intel i7 and I dedicated one "core" (out of 8 "cores" available, seeing double due to hyperthreading) with 1024 MB. I did not use two cores as suggested by Phoronix.

Thanks for your reply! I dont know what dracut does without googel, so is that dracut error affecting your KVM install?

weitjong · #53 3rd January 2012, 03:16 AM

No, the dracut problem on the nightly iso build does not affect my install. I did not install rawhide from nightly-build iso. I clone a working F16 VM image and upgraded the cloned F16 to rawhide via yum update (as described in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releas...evious_release).

arowana · #54 5th January 2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by weitjong

No, the dracut problem on the nightly iso build does not affect my install. I did not install rawhide from nightly-build iso. I clone a working F16 VM image and upgraded the cloned F16 to rawhide via yum update (as described in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releas...evious_release).

so, will probably do the update from f16 again on old hardware to see the progress of software rendering. looking forward to it, thanks for your reply weitjong!

arowana · #55 8th January 2012, 08:43 AM

Updated this old hardware to rawhide, this time it is stable to use for me. Have not experienced glitches so far.

But..., this time i can not escape the fallback mode, so i can hardly say how soft3d drivers work. I thought old graphic cards are unblacklisted and will run soft3d, but seems not to be the case here.

#56 8th January 2012, 09:26 AM

i dont think that feature is finished yet so it isnt exactly gonna work on all systems

still says 50% complete http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Featur...ware_rendering