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Old 17th December 2011, 02:32 AM
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Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem) Update

I can install from the live cd just fine, Fedora 16 boots up (gnome 3 fails to load properly). Once I boot up for the first time, I run updates and after reboot the system freezes on the log in screen. I think it might be the kernel, I tried to just update the kernel and it froze after that reboot the same way.

I am not sure how to fix this or if it is even a known problem.

My system setup is:
Intel Core i7 920
Nvidia GTX 580
2 SSD in raid0 for boot
3 HDD in raid 5 for storage
6GB RAM.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, I have re-installed about 5 times now trying different things and each time It freezes on the log in screen. This is driving me a little crazy.

Update:
I was able to get everything running by installing the kmod Nvidia drivers before updating then rebooting. But now a different issue has arisen. I have a dual monitor setup, once I enabled the second monitor everything kind of breaks again, I can login but it hangs before the desktop loads up.

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Old 17th December 2011, 03:23 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

If you're getting to the login screen it is unlikely a kernel problem.

What happens when you choose Recovery Mode from the Grub menu?

If that works, I'd edit the grub entry manually while you're in grub to remove rhgb and quiet so you can see where it fails. When it does, get to a text console by pressing control-alt-F2 and then output dmesg to a text file and post it. I'd also grab /home/<user>/.xsession-errors and post that.

I'd also remove the RAID 5 for now until you get things stabilized.
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Old 17th December 2011, 03:26 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

Yea I already removed the raid 5, I didn't want to overwrite anything on there. I had it working for a bit (once I used the kmod drivers), but as soon as I enabled my second monitor and rebooted things broke again. Now once I log in nothing loads, it just sits on the background.

My initial problem was definitely a driver issue. But now im not sure how to even reset the xorg.config file so I can get my single monitor setup working again.
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Old 17th December 2011, 03:30 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

The clues will be in dmesg and xsession-errors. Without them, this is just another vague problem and no one will be able to help.
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Old 17th December 2011, 03:33 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

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The clues will be in dmesg and xsession-errors. Without them, this is just another vague problem and no one will be able to help.
Where exactly are those files? Sorry, I am new to fedora and still fairly new to linux in general.
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Old 17th December 2011, 03:38 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

Code:
/home/<user>/.xsession-errors
For dmesg you'll have to create the file with
Code:
dmesg > dmesg.txt
And then put them on a USB stick or scp it to another computer to post.

---------- Post added at 08:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:37 PM ----------

Have you run 'yum update' to make sure everything is updated? A lot has changed since the stuff on the LiveCD.

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'yum update kernel' is insufficient, btw, that only updates the kernel and everything needs to be fully up to date.
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Old 17th December 2011, 03:50 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

Yes I have, everything is up to date.

I am attempting to retrieve the files but they do not seem to want to copy to my flash drive. I shall keep trying.

If there are good / safe instructions to get dual screen working with nvidia kmod drivers then it might be easier for me to just re-install everything and get back to the point where things were working with only one monitor working. If that would be simpler I do not mind doing that.
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Old 17th December 2011, 03:55 AM
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Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

You have to create a mount point for the flash drive. e.g.
Code:
mkdir /media/usb
The mount the flash drive. I will assume it's the third drives (two RAID 0's are probably sda and sdb), and that there is one partition so you will likely need to adjust this:
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mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/usb
then you can directly create dmesg onto the flash drive

Code:
dmesg > /media/usb/dmesg.txt
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Old 17th December 2011, 04:23 AM
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[Solved] Re: Freezing after initial update (I think it is a kernel problem)

Okay I actually just re-installed and updated everything. I selected TwinView this time instead of separate view. At first I assumes twin view was some sort of monitor mirroring which I did not want, but it turns out twin view was exactly what I was looking for. Maybe my card does not support the other Separate view which was causing problems or something. I do not know but My issue is solved for now. Now I hope I dont break everything yet again.
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