F16, Problems with kernel 3.2.1-3.fc16.i686.PAE

ziaro · #1 24th January 2012, 10:44 PM

Hello,

today with command "sudo yum update" I installed newest updates for my notebook Lenovo L520 (Intel graphic chip, no nvidia or amd).
After reboot and choosing grub2 entry for new kernel kernel-PAE-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686 I can't to login.
I can see only black screen , no plymouth splash animation nor any messages. No reaction on "Alt+F2" or another key combinations, no beeps or something like this.

Luckily "old" entry for kernel 3.1.9-1.fc16.i686.PAE is still working, so I'm able to login to my laptop and to write this "help call".

Have someone else problems with this kernel update and, what is for me more important

, how I can to solve this issue?

Maybe this information will be helpful:
List of updated/installed packages (taked from yum.log):

Code:

Jan 24 22:17:42 Updated: foomatic-db-filesystem-4.0-30.20120103.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:17:51 Updated: foomatic-db-ppds-4.0-30.20120103.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:17:55 Updated: git-1.7.7.6-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:17:55 Updated: perl-Git-1.7.7.6-1.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:18:09 Updated: selinux-policy-3.10.0-72.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:18:47 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.10.0-72.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:18:56 Updated: foomatic-db-4.0-30.20120103.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:18:57 Updated: gnome-tweak-tool-3.2.2-1.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:18:59 Updated: kernel-headers-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:20 Installed: kernel-PAE-devel-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:37 Installed: kernel-devel-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:39 Updated: iso-codes-3.32-1.fc16.noarch
Jan 24 22:19:44 Updated: gtk3-3.2.3-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:46 Updated: 1:qt-4.8.0-7.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:49 Updated: 1:qt-x11-4.8.0-7.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:51 Updated: gtk3-devel-3.2.3-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:52 Updated: gtk3-immodule-xim-3.2.3-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:55 Updated: gnome-color-manager-3.2.2-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:19:58 Updated: gjs-1.30.1-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:00 Updated: ibus-hangul-1.4.0-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:00 Updated: pptp-1.7.2-14.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:01 Updated: procmail-3.22-29.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:03 Updated: espeak-1.46.02-1.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:05 Updated: libicu-4.6-4.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:12 Installed: kernel-PAE-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:13 Updated: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.24-3.fc16.i686
Jan 24 22:20:14 Updated: os-prober-1.48-2.fc16.i686

Thanks in advance.

sesso · #2 24th January 2012, 11:06 PM

I would lsmod and check the difference in video cards that are loaded. I bet its not the same.

WhizzoCode · #3 24th January 2012, 11:11 PM

Same problem here, but, x86_64 version.
How can I see the new kernel modules to compare with my lsmod?

sesso · #4 24th January 2012, 11:14 PM

Oh crap I just read that you cant do alt +f2. have you tried "Ctrl + Alt+ F2" ? :_)

I just did my update on a samsung laptop and it went smoothly for x86_64.

WhizzoCode · #5 24th January 2012, 11:22 PM

In my case not alt+F2, not ctrl+alt+F2

johnj · #6 25th January 2012, 01:18 PM

When I ran updates earlier today using yumextender I noticed that 3.2.1-3.fc16.i686.PAE was installed.

Since then I have a problem wth the system freezing when it comes out of a suspend - no mouse, no Alt+F2 or Ctl+Alt+F2.
I have had to remove power cord and battery to shut down.

All is fine afer a power up but next time I suspend and try to come out the notebook freezes again.

I'm running a Toshiba NB200

hbaird · #7 25th January 2012, 01:24 PM

F 15 works with 2.6.41.10-3.fc15.i686.PAE Kernel after today's update. I don't know how that relates to the 3.X.X numbers.

amodkarmarkar · #8 25th January 2012, 04:04 PM

same here i get a black screen on which many things are written but i cannot proceed.

ziaro · #9 25th January 2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesso

I would lsmod and check the difference in video cards that are loaded. I bet its not the same.

This could be really issue with video driver: after wild keypressing within "black screen" i heard suddenly music theme from Gcompris educational package. I can't say which key combination it was, but I'm think, that this is not important.

Next question: how i can start lsmod when graphical desktop is not too see? How I (or better to say: "we" ==> more ppl have similar problems with last kernel update) can start/change to console at boot time?
Fedora 16 started with kernel 3.1.9-1.fc16.i686.PAE is listing thru lsmod command following modules:

Code:

$lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate             3490  0 
zlib_deflate           18985  1 ppp_deflate
ppp_async               6218  1 
crc_ccitt               1281  1 ppp_async
ppp_generic            21168  6 ppp_deflate,ppp_async
slhc                    4783  1 ppp_generic
tcp_lp                  2211  0 
ppdev                   6899  0 
parport_pc             18302  0 
lp                      7646  0 
parport                29655  3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
fuse                   60799  3 
ebtable_nat             1555  0 
ebtables               15182  1 ebtable_nat
ipt_MASQUERADE          1812  3 
iptable_nat             4206  1 
nf_nat                 16832  2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
vboxpci                15288  0 
xt_CHECKSUM             1001  1 
vboxnetadp              6912  0 
iptable_mangle          1347  1 
vboxnetflt             16866  0 
tun                    12595  1 
bridge                 71710  0 
stp                     1519  1 bridge
llc                     4150  2 bridge,stp
lockd                  67393  0 
vboxdrv               228782  3 vboxpci,vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
rfcomm                 53179  0 
bnep                   12509  2 
ip6t_REJECT             3946  2 
nf_conntrack_ipv4       7530  6 iptable_nat,nf_nat
nf_conntrack_ipv6       7101  2 
nf_defrag_ipv4          1173  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_defrag_ipv6          7759  1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
xt_state                1022  5 
nf_conntrack           64156  6 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_state
ip6table_filter         1283  1 
ip6_tables             11164  1 ip6table_filter
input_polldev           2738  0 
option                 15692  2 
cdc_ether               6865  0 
usb_wwan                9772  1 option
usbnet                 22339  1 cdc_ether
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     23621  1 
snd_hda_codec_realtek   247366  1 
arc4                    1141  2 
snd_hda_intel          23057  2 
snd_hda_codec          84779  3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep               5396  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_seq                48285  0 
snd_seq_device          5441  1 snd_seq
iwlwifi               184199  0 
mac80211              217010  1 iwlwifi
i2c_i801                8657  0 
btusb                  14056  0 
bluetooth             204772  11 rfcomm,bnep,btusb
uvcvideo               58462  0 
videodev               83008  1 uvcvideo
r8169                  41032  0 
thinkpad_acpi          62630  0 
media                  10319  2 uvcvideo,videodev
iTCO_wdt               10460  0 
iTCO_vendor_support     2203  1 iTCO_wdt
snd_pcm                74013  3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer              17660  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          6769  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
mii                     4091  2 usbnet,r8169
cfg80211              156266  2 iwlwifi,mac80211
microcode              11746  0 
snd                    55194  14 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,thinkpad_acpi,snd_pcm,snd_timer
rfkill                 14452  5 bluetooth,thinkpad_acpi,cfg80211
serio_raw               3582  0 
joydev                  7780  0 
soundcore               5892  1 snd
virtio_net             12374  0 
kvm_intel             118115  0 
kvm                   326964  1 kvm_intel
sunrpc                191650  2 lockd
uinput                  5946  0 
usb_storage            39367  0 
wmi                     8357  0 
i915                  500941  3 
drm_kms_helper         26252  1 i915
drm                   173005  4 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit            4724  1 i915
i2c_core               23599  6 i2c_i801,videodev,i915,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
video                  10744  1 i915

***DBelton*** · #10 25th January 2012, 04:53 PM

here is a lsmod listing running the 3.2.1-3 kernel with intel video. I haven't had any issues with it here. I have it installed on several machines here running either intel or nvidia graphics and no problems on any of them.

Code:

[root@tower20 bin]# uname -r
3.2.1-3.fc16.x86_64
[root@tower20 bin]# lsmod 
Module                  Size  Used by
tcp_lp                 12663  0 
fuse                   77538  3 
nfs                   397981  7 
lockd                  84578  1 nfs
fscache                55161  1 nfs
auth_rpcgss            47996  1 nfs
nfs_acl                12741  1 nfs
snd_hda_codec_realtek   231881  1 
snd_hda_intel          33276  2 
snd_hda_codec         114615  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
ppdev                  17635  0 
parport_pc             28082  0 
snd_hwdep              17611  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_seq                64807  0 
snd_seq_device         14129  1 snd_seq
snd_pcm                97100  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer              28815  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    74425  12 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer
r8169                  60789  0 
sunrpc                230804  17 nfs,lockd,auth_rpcgss,nfs_acl
soundcore              14484  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         18101  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
iTCO_wdt               17948  0 
iTCO_vendor_support    13419  1 iTCO_wdt
joydev                 17412  0 
wacom                  47599  0 
parport                44515  2 ppdev,parport_pc
uinput                 17606  0 
i2c_i801               17765  0 
mii                    13527  1 r8169
serio_raw              13371  0 
hid_logitech_dj        18415  0 
microcode              23240  0 
usb_storage            56207  1 
i915                  452926  3 
drm_kms_helper         40141  1 i915
drm                   225894  4 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit           13156  1 i915
i2c_core               37955  5 i2c_i801,i915,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
video                  18932  1 i915

I wonder if it could be an issue with power management? Possibly it's putting your display to sleep or not waking it up? Laptops (especially Lenovo laptops) are quirky anyway with the power management stuff and maybe there was some change to it that completely broke things for you.

AceRoom · #11 25th January 2012, 05:06 PM

Anybody else run yum update today and install the new kernel? It boots and within a fixed time of less than a couple of minutes, I get a scary black screen. I didn't note down the error but is this an isolated problem? Anyone else facing this?

I have these three installed.
kernel-3.1.8-2.fc16.i686
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.i686
kernel-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686

kernel-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686 is the one that is crashing. I'm able to run kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.i686 comfortably.

leigh123linux · #12 25th January 2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceRoom

Anybody else run yum update today and install the new kernel? It boots and within a fixed time of less than a couple of minutes, I get a scary black screen. I didn't note down the error but is this an isolated problem? Anyone else facing this?

I have these three installed.
kernel-3.1.8-2.fc16.i686
kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.i686
kernel-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686

kernel-3.2.1-3.fc16.i686 is the one that is crashing. I'm able to run kernel-3.1.9-1.fc16.i686 comfortably.

Thread merged.

ziaro · #13 25th January 2012, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBelton

I wonder if it could be an issue with power management? Possibly it's putting your display to sleep or not waking it up? Laptops (especially Lenovo laptops) are quirky anyway with the power management stuff and maybe there was some change to it that completely broke things for you.

Hmmm ... last week i made some modification to grub configuration belonging to power management:

i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 pcie_aspm=force

(not right thema, but it indeed lowered idle power consumption with active wlan/bluetooth devices from about 22W to 16W without any side effects, values are proven by powertop utility)

But without this three boot parameters I have still no luck: black screen stay black

So my hope is died

Plz, help me / us

hbaird · #14 25th January 2012, 07:16 PM

Have you redone The Nvidia stickie? It sounds like the kmod situation I have had several times over the last several years. I have a couple of times had to remove and reinstall kmod and akmod to get it to work.

ziaro · #15 25th January 2012, 08:18 PM

My laptop have no nvidia or ati graphic chip / chipset ... it's normal Intel HD 3000 built-in graphic chip, so no kmod/akmod "trick" is suitable for me.

Thank you anyway