libsocialweb-core, telepathy

[geion]

Tried to remove those two from my gnome and made a mess. If i try to fix gnome with youm update @gnome-desktop this is what it does


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Package Arch Version Repository Size
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Installing:
gnome-contacts x86_64 3.2.2-2.fc16 fedora 194 k
gnome-shell x86_64 3.2.2.1-1.fc16 updates 854 k
Installing for dependencies:
folks x86_64 1:0.6.6-1.fc16 updates 443 k
libsocialweb x86_64 0.25.20-1.fc16 updates 236 k
libsocialweb-keys noarch 0.25.20-1.fc16 updates 9.0 k

Transaction Summary
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Install 2 Packages (+3 Dependent packages)

Can i install gnome-shell separatelly?
Can i get rid of this social thing?

[nonamedotc]

Nope. I don't think that is going to work. It is dependency that is needed by gnome-shell.

yum deplist gnome-shell
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
package: gnome-shell.x86_64 3.2.2.1-1.fc16
 [ ... ]
  dependency: libedataserverui-3.0.so.1()(64bit)
   provider: evolution-data-server.x86_64 3.2.3-2.fc16
  dependency: libffi.so.5()(64bit)
   provider: libffi.x86_64 3.0.10-1.fc16
  dependency: libfolks.so.25()(64bit)
   provider: folks.x86_64 1:0.6.6-1.fc16
  dependency: libfontconfig.so.1()(64bit)
   provider: fontconfig.x86_64 2.8.0-4.fc16
 [ ... ]

and

PHP Code:


yum deplist folks* | grep libsocial*
 dependency: libsocialweb-client.so.2()(64bit)
   provider: libsocialweb.x86_64 0.25.20-1.fc16 


Hope this helps.

[geion]

ok so can you tell me one good reason they embedded libsocialweb-core in the shell and since when? There are people complaining about it linking to twitter with no control. Any possible workaround? Can i get rid of it if i install KDE or other desktop GUI?

[nonamedotc]

I am pretty sure you can use another Desktop environment - KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc. Why they embed this in the shell - sorry I have absolutely no idea.

[DBelton]

I haven't been able to get rid of it completely here, either, and one of the main reasons I have been checking out other desktops. I don't want to have that crap on my desktop. I don't use it, I don't want it on my system.

Originally Posted by geion

LOL i remember dr John's song if i don't do it somebody else will... Really hope this is not going to be the end of my affair with Fedora...

just do a

yum groupremove Gnome Bloat

and install another DE/WM. don't have to remove Fedora

[DBelton]

Originally Posted by tox

just do a

yum groupremove Gnome Bloat

and install another DE/WM. don't have to remove Fedora

That would remove the entire Gnome 3 shell if they were to implement that command.

Originally Posted by DBelton

That would remove the entire Gnome 3 shell if they were to implement that command.

exactly, thats what Gnome3 is becoming. Sadly enough.

[DBelton]

What can you expect when the Gnome developers decided to write a desktop environment using javascript?

Originally Posted by DBelton

What can you expect when the Gnome developers decided to write a desktop environment using javascript?

not much im afraid, there only gonna findout the hard way

when it comes down to it all, i think most Gnome-Shell lovers are the ones from Ubuntu.

[geion]

Yeak ok but there are unanswered questions like why and when. Linux is open source and free and the purpose of it is to give you the most choices not to tie you to anything like the social networks. LOL most of us here didn't even know they are (or shoud i say where, cause i think there's gone a be lots of tweaking ant thinking after this thread... And if i was connected to, Facebook or twitter, God forbid, i think i had the right to at least know... Gnome-3 is the same in all distros, do i smell something here? I don't know but i bet that KDE is the same since KDE is from what i know a wrapper around gnome...

Originally Posted by geion

Yeak ok but there are unanswered questions like why and when. Linux is open source and free and the purpose of it is to give you the most choices not to tie you to anything like the social networks. LOL most of us here didn't even know they are (or shoud i say where, cause i think there's gone a be lots of tweaking ant thinking after this thread... And if i was connected to, Facebook or twitter, God forbid, i think i had the right to at least know... Gnome-3 is the same in all distros, do i smell something here? I don't know but i bet that is the same since KDE is from what i know a wrapper around gnome...

take your questions over to the Gnome Bloat Mailing lists an ask them cause we cant answer " why " they did it. when they did it. possibly in F15

[geion]

One work around is to uninstall libsocialweb and then you will fall back onto something with menus that works i think it's from Gnome-2 except you don't have a real desktop where you can put shortcuts. But most of gnome-3 will still work.

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By the way, there's another way, if anybody knew the exact ports those applications for twitter and facebook use, you can block those in the firewall, it's a bit more risky though if they can make their way through something like 80 or some other port you have to have open.

[DBelton]

Originally Posted by tox

take your questions over to the Gnome Bloat Mailing lists an ask them cause we cant answer " why " they did it. when they did it. possibly in F15

and "maybe" in a couple of years they might get around to answering your question with a sarcastic remark.

Seriously. I have filed bugs with Gnome that have been out there over a year now with not even one response to them. I have pretty much decided it does no good and quit filing bugs against Gnome unless it's something really serious.

[nonamedotc]

Originally Posted by DBelton

Seriously. I have filed bugs with Gnome that have been out there over a year now with not even one response to them. I have pretty much decided it does no good and quit filing bugs against Gnome unless it's something really serious.

I thought they were typically closed as "WONT FIX"