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Old 2004-12-11, 05:59 PM CST
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Unhappy Soundblaster Live! 24-Bit

I have a Soundblaster Live! 24-bit PCI soundcard. FC3 doesnt support it and I was curious if anyone had written a driver for it, and if so where it is and how to install it?
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Old 2004-12-11, 06:14 PM CST
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Does this card use the emu10k1 module? I thought all cards defined as Soundblaster Live boards use this.

Have you tried ' modprobe emu10k1 '?

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Old 2005-01-16, 09:55 AM CST
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Does this card use the emu10k1 module? I thought all cards defined as Soundblaster Live boards use this.

Have you tried ' modprobe emu10k1 '?

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Hello World!!!
I own one SoundBlaster Live 24 Bit!!!
It uses the 410 chip that is not directly supported. After searching and searching I have finally Sound on my Linux.
1) go to alsa homepage
2) download the driver, lib,tools etc
3) compile everything ( I found the alsa-lib alsa-lib-devel and some other as rpm v1.0.8 and just compiled the drivers my self)
4) reboot fedora core 3 will find your SB at startup and ask for configuration...
here is my modprobe.conf

[b]alias eth0 r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 1.1.2
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 ohci-hcd
alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
alias char-major-195* nvidia
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1

# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.8 ---
#alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
#alias sound-slot-0 snd-ca0106
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

the last lines were generated by alsaconf tool and have been removed by me since with out them worked better for me...

also try in xmms for example to set at the preferenses the audio as oss if alsa doesn' work properly!!!

Have Fun
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Old 2005-01-16, 05:13 PM CST
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atrpms

atrpms.net has precompiled rpms for alsa and work great. I use them for my Dell SBLive! (emu101x) this is far easier then compiling everything from source and they release updates for the newest kernel fairly fast. look into it first.
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Old 2005-01-19, 11:16 AM CST
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I had the same problem, but BlackMan's workaround (thanks to you) solved it. But it's still not perfect:

- Audio CD playback doesn't wok. I use an analoge cable from the CD-ROM to the soundcard (Soundblaster Live 24 bit). It's no entries in the mixer that I associate with CD-ROM, so I cannot adjust the volume slider. Maybe the solution is digital playback?

- ALSA playback is full of noise and craclers. OSS playback works fine for me. I have only thried this in XMMS (newest version), so it may have something to do with the output plugin, but I'm not sure.

I haven't disabeled any autoconfig lines in modprobe.conf, will it solve any problems?

Again thanks for a GREAT workaround.
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Old 2005-01-19, 09:07 PM CST
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I'm debating with myself on whether I should get this SB Live! 24-bit card or go up a level get the Audigy 2 Value. What's the verdict on SB Live! 24-bit? No drivers yet as I see. Are the workarounds satisfactory? From the posts of Blackman and Muffe I guess not. Any other people with SB Live 24-bit?
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Old 2005-01-20, 02:48 AM CST
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I'm debating with myself on whether I should get this SB Live! 24-bit card or go up a level get the Audigy 2 Value. What's the verdict on SB Live! 24-bit? No drivers yet as I see. Are the workarounds satisfactory? From the posts of Blackman and Muffe I guess not. Any other people with SB Live 24-bit?
I'll try a few things today. The CD playback problem solved itself by using digital playback. The ALSA problem seems to only be in XMMS, so I'll try to se if any other has the same problem.

If I can't solve the ALSA problem, I'll go back to the store with the card, and ask for a Audigy card insteead (bought it yesterday). It'll not cost me so much extra. I'll ready to pay to get good sound.

I found out at least one thing: Do not adjust the volume sliders all the way up to the top. Keep them below 75%, because the sound will be full of noise if you turn it all way up (I had that problem with another soundcard too, so I think this is a common problem for several cards).

I'll keep you informed.
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Old 2005-01-20, 12:47 PM CST
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A follow up:

- Alsa playback in XMMS sounds horrible. It's full of scratches and "jumps", and it's impossible to listen to. But this may be a XMMS problem. But I dont know if the other programs is using ALSA or OSS, so it's impossible to say (I haven't time to figure it out).

- Line input won't work. I have disabeled all the SPDIF outputs (it's a lot of them in the mixer), so it's not that. It seems like driver only handle the main channels. I need line input for my TV card (Cinergy 600 - working really nice).

- If you adjust the main level above 80 per cent of max, the sound get distorted. As I wrote in my last post, this may not be an card/driver problem. I had this problem width another card/driver (Soundblaster 16). But that was on another system.

The conclusion is: Scince I bought this card yesterday, for about 250 NOK, I'll go back to the store (they are really service minded people) and ask to get an Audigy card, and pay them another 250 NOK. 500 NOK for a soundcard isn't that bad.
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Old 2005-01-20, 01:00 PM CST
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Thanks for the follow up Muffe. I guess I'll get another card then.
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Old 2005-01-20, 03:27 PM CST
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BandC -

I have the 24bit card, and haven't gotten it to work yet. Everyone points to the emu10k1 driver, but I haven't found a simple enough set of directions yet to install it correctly. I'm sure it can be done, but I've seen tons of posts on this board about the SBLive! 24 bit card with people asking how to get it to work. So, I must not be the only one.
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Old 2005-01-25, 08:49 AM CST
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I have the 'creative soundblaster live 24! bit 7.1'-soundcard and the following os:
Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg)
Linux 2.6.10-1.741_FC3 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

The installed drivers are:
alsa-driver-1.0.8-35.rhfc3.at.i386.rpm
alsa-driver-devel-1.0.8-35.rhfc3.at.i386.rpm
alsa-kmdl-2.6.10-1.741_FC3-1.0.8-35.rhfc3.at.i686.rpm
alsa-utils-1.0.8-12.rhfc3.at.i386.rpm
libasound2-1.0.8-18.rhfc3.at.i386.rpm

But the 'creative soundblaster live 24! bit 7.1'-soundcard doesn't work.
It becomes detected as: 'Creative Labs SB Audigy LS snd-ca0106'.
The same problem like at 'SuSE 9.2'.

modprobe emu10k1
FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found.

And:
modprobe snd-emu10k1
or:
modprobe snd-emu10k1
have no erorr-message, but also no effect.

The /etc/modprobe.conf:
alias eth0 via-rhine
alias eth1 hisax
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller2 uhci-hcd
alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-ca0106 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ca0106 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-ca0106 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-ca0106

It can't be, that the 'creative soundblaster live 24! bit 7.1'-soundcard once by on pc works
and by another pc doesn't works at the same os (Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg))
and the newest sound-driver. I think it gives more 'soundblaster live 24 bit!'.

Is there anyone, where runs this soundcard (creative soundblaster live 24! bit 7.1) generally and correctly on 'Fedora Core 3 or SuSE 9.2' ?

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Old 2005-01-26, 05:17 PM CST
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Soundblaster live 24bit!

After the 3rd reboot was the soundcard detected as 'Cretive SB Audigy LS
(snd-ca0106)'. At first was the sound ok. But now, if I play mp3's in XMMS
the sound scratches and jumps and is terrible.

The alsa-sound displays an error:
WARNING **: alsa_setup_mixer(): Failed to find mixer element: PCM

lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_ca0106 25764 2
snd_ac97_codec 65400 1 snd_ca0106
snd_pcm_oss 45856 0
snd_mixer_oss 16256 2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 86920 3 snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 26244 1 snd_pcm
snd 49252 8 snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_os s,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 9889 2 snd

/etc/modprobe.conf
alias eth0 via-rhine
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller2 uhci-hcd
alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394
alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
options snd-card-0 index=0
install snd-ca0106 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ca0106 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-ca0106 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-ca0106
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And furthermore KsCD gets not one tone.
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Old 2005-03-28, 01:35 PM CST
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I have onboard Soundblaster Live 24 bit! and the sound works now.
I'm newbie to linux, so it might not be as professional answer as it could.

I have Suse 9.2.

Originally: at startup the system reported "probe of 0000:01:070 failed with error -5", in running system alsamixer reported "no such device" and would not work. Alsaconf would start, configure card, but would not play a sound.

I did: reinstall Suse (to get the kernel source files into the system - I didn't know howtodo it else), opened the ALSA page, found SB Audigy Live at:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc...&module=ca0106

downloaded and compiled the latest versions of alsa, alsalib and tools from alsa pages into kernel.

I went exactly through the manual except for one thing - my modprobe.conf didn't and doesn't have any entry with "alias snd", it only had (in NVidia onboard part):

alias sound-slot-1 nvaudio

when I tried to edit it (to snd-...), it didn't work, so I changed it back to the original line (above), restarted and ran alsaconf, alsamixer

and it works!
.. hope this helps ..good luck
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Old 2005-04-14, 08:39 AM CDT
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Exclamation CA0106 - Does not have full 32-bit DMA capability

I have a MSI K8N Diamond motherboard with the CA0106 audio chip and have limited sound support using the latest alsa. I found a note here that makes me a little suspicous as to any continued support for this device.
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Originally Posted by <davidm@hpl.hp.com>
I was in need of a 3.3V/dual-voltage-capable PCI sound-card and, as luck would have it, the only card of that sort in the local computer store was one that still has a DMA engine that cannot even DMA to all 32 bits (it's limited to 28 bits). Hard to believe, but true (the card in question is a "SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit" with a CA0106 chip; stay away from that one if you can...).
I think I may just get me an add-in PCI card for the time being.
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Old 2005-06-16, 01:23 PM CDT
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you need the newest alsa drivers and module ca0106 But it will only give you stereo on your front speakers, At least i haven't found anyone so far getting it to work with 5.1 surround.
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