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    At the risk of

    getting banned ... But I just have to vent. Back in the "teen" versions when I'd do a fresh install: Do you want Desktop or Server? Do you want Gnome, KDE, a, b, c...? Do you want DHCP or fixed?

    NOW - you 'will' install Gnome, you will install X & Y & Z - because that's what 'WE' like and 'WE' know better. Ya, sure there's a spin of KDE out there, it'll only take you an hour of searching to find it. Once downloaded and dd'ed to a stick I can have to new machine up and running in 10 minutes - well "up". Another hour of tweek this, set fixed IP, configure this and that.

    Could I just ... ya, but I don't like being told what I like by someone who has no idea what I do, how I work, what I need.

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    Re: At the risk of

    vents like that won't get you banned. there's a lot of folk who use the forum that agree entirely with your viewpoints including myself.

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    Re: At the risk of

    If you take something like the server version, I think there's more chance for customization. I'm not sure though, I always choose minimal and add on from there.

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    Re: At the risk of

    Quote Originally Posted by antikythera
    vents like that won't get you banned. there's a lot of folk who use the forum that agree entirely with your viewpoints including myself.
    Thanks. Understand I like Gnome 48%, KDE 52% - and I run other OSs on my RasPi/OPi boards. And: ie. systemd - why? what was wrong with /etc/init.d/whatever - well we haven't changed that in quite a while, it's not broke, so watch this. It's a case of "this is the way 'my' mind works, so...". (more toot'n)
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    Re: At the risk of

    Quote Originally Posted by liderbug
    I run other OSs on my RasPi/OPi boards.
    OS: Fedora 39 x86_64 | Machine: Lenovo ThinkCentre M91P | CPU: Intel Core i5-2500 (4)@3.30GHz | RAM: 32GB PC3-12800 DDR3 | Disks: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB SATA, Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST1000NM0033 1TB SATA | Video: Intel HD Graphics 2000 128MB | Sound: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz CS4630 | Ethernet: Intel 82579LM

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    Re: At the risk of

    I agree too, and I promise I won't ban you either. Matter of fact, I'd give you a pat on the back if I could.

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    Re: At the risk of

    If you choose the network install version or the everything network version, you can definitely pick and choose. The live ISO version is for Turks and for testing new features.

    Search for the one or the other.
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    Re: At the risk of

    Quote Originally Posted by lsatenstein
    If you choose the network install version or the everything network version, you can definitely pick and choose. The live ISO version is for Turks and for testing new features.

    Search for the one or the other.
    But .... when you go to Home Page, ..ahhhh, ah, Download you get X. On my own I said "Hmmmm there's got to be a KDE version... Hey Google!".
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    Re: At the risk of

    scroll down past the big bright third of the page width buttons on the get.fedoraproject.org page and there are links to the spins pages and alternate architectures. In fact it is still out of date since the latest spin icon is missing. There's now LXQt as well. Check out labs as well, there's some interesting options there.


    https://spins.fedoraproject.org/


    https://labs.fedoraproject.org/


    the crux of the issue is you like most other users would be were drawn by the big brightly coloured buttons to the three main options only.


    the all encompassing offline install ISO that contained everything available from Fedora Project is no more unfortunately. the live-respin SIG did a one off build recently for a FOSS conference but it too is no longer available for download from the servers.

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    Re: At the risk of

    Oh, and I don't know when this changed but ... I install FC2x and along with this and that I run ssh-keygen... then ssh-copy-id... and then I can ssh from my laptop to my server - NOT! password> OK Google 'ssh still requires password' - your permissions have to be... you have to abc then xyz and then check your permissions then - after about 3 days and I don't know how many queries only to find that ssh_config: PubkeyAuthentication no
    I've never had to fix that before.
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    Re: At the risk of

    Hey I'm backkkkk.

    FC30 - iptables is now nftables - as if iptables isn't/wasn't complicated enough. And it appears that FC30.img was created with the img in lock down. Can't get in.

    Fix:
    dnf remove openssh-clients openssh-server
    dnf install openssh-clients openssh-server
    systemctl restart sshd (or reboot)

    now iptables works and you can configure and ssh in.
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